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HollowDragonMaster

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posted June 10, 2003 03:30 AM      Profile for HollowDragonMaster   Email HollowDragonMaster    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I have kept up with all the chats, as well as the Compendium and I have not seen any reference to text being changed on the Darkness Energy.

I have been told that if you now use it on a Pokemon that isn't Dark or doen't have Dark in it's name it is useless. If that's true - it's the biggest BS I have seen since the game began. It hurts enough when you get the damage counter added each turn if you have it on a non-dark pokemon, but it's a choice we are given and a price we pay if we choose to do so. If it's true, then Metal better be the same rulling.

Either way, before I jump to conclusions and call the President of the U.S., I thought I would bring it up here.

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WizPog_BJJ

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posted June 10, 2003 04:17 AM      Profile for WizPog_BJJ   Email WizPog_BJJ    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
From WotC's standpoint - no neither Darkness Energy cards nor Metal Energy cards have changed. One of the rules in ADV is that Darkness and Metal energy cards only give the bonus when attached to a Dark type or Metal type Pokémon respectively, otherwise they just provide [White Mana] energy. Have to see if that rule makes it over here.

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HollowDragonMaster

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posted June 10, 2003 04:56 AM      Profile for HollowDragonMaster   Email HollowDragonMaster    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
I can't belive that TCG would even make a change like that!
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jesschow12

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posted June 10, 2003 05:07 AM      Profile for jesschow12   Email jesschow12    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
i hoped that is just a rumor cause if they want to specify very clearly for the energies then i think later fighting or other energy just provide to its own types of pokemon

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GuardianTIM
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posted June 10, 2003 05:21 AM      Profile for GuardianTIM      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
If I've read the above right, then Darkness Energy would provide nothing to non-dark pokemon, and Metal would do the same. That means that for the Aquapolis Steelix, you'd not want to put metal energy on an Aquapolis Onyx, coz it'd be a waste.

As I understood it, Dark/Metal energy still provide the bonuses to non-dark and Non-metal types, but to those types, also gave a penalty. (Reducing the attack of non-metals, and Darkness-poisoning Non-Darks)

Personally, I believe it should stay as it is. I use a Metal-type deck (Steelix+Scizor, with Blisseys for healing), and if anything DOES have to change, then the DarknessPoisoning should be more like Burn, and the Metal properties shouldn't block out all of Confusion self-damage (Confused failures do 20 to themselves. -10 for the metal energy's attack damage reduction, and another 10 for the defensive property of metal energy, leaving 0 damage done to itself.)

I hope at least some of that made sense, and in regards to:
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Originally posted by jesschow12:
i hoped that is just a rumor cause if they want to specify very clearly for the energies then i think later fighting or other energy just provide to its own types of pokemon

Well I believe that if that was the case, I know of a Shuckle that has it's attack that requires 2 Grass energy. If fighting energy only provides Figting energy to Fighting types, then that Shuckle cannot attack without Rainbow Energy.

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DOMCGI

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posted June 10, 2003 07:05 AM      Profile for DOMCGI      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
As WizPog_BJJ say, Wizards do not change the rule, but the Nintendo MAY change the rule after ADV is released.

When there is only 2.5 months left, WOTC probably will not make any major change in the rule.

Until we really see the rule after the English ADV is officially released, we don't know what is the final English Nintendo ADV rule.

A reminder to everyone, all the WOTC events and tournament will using WOTC (old) rule; all Nintendo events and tournament (none is officially announced) will using new ADV rule.

It is no point to discuss how ADV rule affect the WOTC event and tournament.

Another reminder, if it is not WOTC events (BZ) and SANCTION tournament, TO can choose to run "House" rule. "House" rule can be anything.

Prepare of mess in this transition period until Nintendo officially take over Pokemon TCG.

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Taichi
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posted June 10, 2003 09:02 AM      Profile for Taichi   Email Taichi    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
If the rule for metal energy doesn't change, chansey EX would be too powerful with metal energy. Chansey EX can do 80 with 3 colorless energy and only does 60 to itself. Imagine how powerful it'll become if it's allowed to use metal energy.
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