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The_Deuce

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posted May 06, 2003 07:21 PM      Profile for The_Deuce   Email The_Deuce    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Um yeah...

Machamp's Poké-Body states:

Immunity - Prevent all effects of your opponent's attacks done to Machamp.

I really hope I'm right in assuming that this excludes damage... @_***

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posted May 06, 2003 07:31 PM      Profile for dkates      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Based on the wording, I would say not. This one takes some strategy, since you would need to be able to deactivate its Power before you could attack it.

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posted May 06, 2003 08:28 PM      Profile for Ice'Cold   Email Ice'Cold    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
They would never print a card that is immune to damage and effects, it would be an overpowered borken card. I would treat this as "prevent all effects of attacks other than damage done to machamp." I think its just bad templating from the japanese cards.

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yoshi1001

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posted May 07, 2003 10:13 AM      Profile for yoshi1001   Email yoshi1001    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
From Usagi Chan's translation:

quote:
(Poké-BODY) Muscle Protector
Prevent all effects of attacks,
except damage, done to Machamp by
the Defending Pokémon.

(emphasis mine)

Looks like a typo.

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posted May 07, 2003 11:10 AM      Profile for CmonIWanaPLaYa      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Looks like an Errata will take place.. while they are at it, could someone ask why in TMP if when a Baby is Active for your teamate, and you have a non-baby active, your opponent can target the Non-baby to kill the Baby.. I htink this should be reconsidered....

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posted May 07, 2003 02:10 PM      Profile for pokedok   Email pokedok    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Here is the official text that is printed on the card itself, I have the cards since yesterday:

Poke-Body Power Immunity

Prevent all effects of your opponent's attack done to Machamp.


Thats printed on the card itself but I believe this has to be clarified at the next chat.

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posted May 07, 2003 03:26 PM      Profile for ShadowCard      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
well, if it's power is that great, it probably has an horrible attack. Most likely something that does damage to itself.

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posted May 07, 2003 03:36 PM      Profile for PokePop   Email PokePop    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by CmonIWanaPLaYa:
while they are at it, could someone ask why in TMP if when a Baby is Active for your teamate, and you have a non-baby active, your opponent can target the Non-baby to kill the Baby.. I htink this should be reconsidered....

Bear in mind that this only works with Attacks like Feint Attack where the Damage can be directed as desired by the Attacker.

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posted May 07, 2003 09:56 PM      Profile for The_Deuce   Email The_Deuce    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by ShadowCard:
well, if it's power is that great, it probably has an horrible attack. Most likely something that does damage to itself.

Nope, here are it's attacks:

[FC] Drag Off - 20 damage. Before doing damage, if your opponent has any benched pokémon, choose 1 of them and switch it with the defending pokémon.. If your opponent has no benched pokémon, ignore this effect.

[FFCC] Hurricane Punch - 30x damage. Flip 4 coins, this attack does 30 damage times the number of heads.

Plus it's got a beefy 120 HP... It's gotta be just a bad translation.

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posted May 08, 2003 02:05 AM      Profile for Raymond Lalic   Email Raymond Lalic    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
It seems the errata on the pokebody would be the part that it must add the words "other than damage". But in my own intpritation, the pokebody prevents ONLY effects of attacks.

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posted May 08, 2003 02:29 PM      Profile for ShadowCard      Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
based on what you said the attacks were, it's a cross between a Dark Machoke and a giovanni's Machamp. Interesting. I really doubt the TPC would make a broken/disbalanced card on purpose. Is isn't yugioh afterall. There must be atleast 2 other cards in the new set that we haven't seen that make this pokebody a bad thing to play.

If this card really is as they say it is, no mistakes, fossil gengar could see a comeback, assuming the machamp is weak to psychic. Still, the gengar has it's fighting resistance with the ability to damage the bench and then move it to machamp with it's pokepower. i think there are faster ideas out there, this is just one off the top of my head.

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posted May 08, 2003 09:18 PM      Profile for BigChuck01   Email BigChuck01    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
Why is this topic even here. It's obvious that it doesn't prevent damage =\. It's just bad wording. *Dumps a box of damage counters on opponents cleffa after he fliped tails for rockets minefeild gym*.

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posted May 09, 2003 11:01 AM      Profile for ScythKing   Email ScythKing    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
quote:
Originally posted by The_Deuce:
Plus it's got a beefy 120 HP... It's gotta be just a bad translation.

Depends on your translation of bad [Devilish]
Damage is an effect of an attack - right? [Devilish] [Devilish] [Devilish]

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posted May 09, 2003 11:12 AM      Profile for yoshi1001   Email yoshi1001    Edit/Delete Post Report This Thread to Moderators
FTC:

quote:
== IMMUNITY (Machamp - Skyridge Expansion)

Q. Skyridge Machamp's "Immunity" power says, "Prevent all effects of your opponent's attacks done to Machamp". I assume this applies only to status effects and such, and does not affect any damage being done to Machamp. Is this correct?
A. Correct. (May 8, 2003 WotC Chat, Q1482)



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