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Topic: baby pokemon and new rules.
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Trakix
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posted June 28, 2003 04:58 PM
I was wondering what is the ruling about having two pokemon out and one of them is a baby (or even if both are). The wording says that if your opponent attacks while the baby is active they ahve to flip to see if the attack works. Does that mean that if I have a baby and another out and they attack the other they still have to flip? And what if I have 2 babies out? Do they then have to make 2 flips? Thanks in advance.
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yoshi1001
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posted June 28, 2003 05:16 PM
From pokemon-tcg.com:
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Baby Pokémon
When your Pokémon makes an attempt to attack an opponent's Baby Pokémon, you flip a coin. The rule for Baby Pokémon is applied only when your Pokémon tries to attack a Baby Pokémon.
So it would be 1 flip or no flips.
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Trakix
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posted June 28, 2003 05:17 PM
that was the way it worked before you were able to have 2 active pokemon. where did you get that wording cause on the card it just says when your opponent attacks and the baby is active. Thanks.
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yoshi1001
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posted June 28, 2003 05:22 PM
That wording applies to one-on-one play. This rule (as seen here) applies to 2-on-2 play.
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jesschow12
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posted June 28, 2003 06:59 PM
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When your Pokémon makes an attempt to attack an opponent's Baby Pokémon, you flip a coin. The rule for Baby Pokémon is applied only when your Pokémon tries to attack a Baby Pokémon.
what about murkrow? feint attack a bench baby and we still have to flip?
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WizPoG_Pop
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posted June 28, 2003 07:13 PM
Just like Team Play, you declare one of the Active Pokemon as your Target. If that Target is a Baby, you flip. If not, you don't. If you then have to choose where an effect or damage goes to, such as from Feint Attack, you do that. If it's a Baby on the Bench, you don't flip for that.
Now, there are some R&S attacks that affect both Actives in 2 on 2 play. In that case, you declare a primary target and only flip if that one is a Baby.
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dkates
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posted July 03, 2003 04:02 PM
Speaking of Feint Attack, suppose it's a two-on-two battle, and one of your opponent's Active Pokemon is a baby, while the other isn't. If you use Feint Attack, can you "target" the non-Baby Active (bypassing the flip) but actually do the damage to the Baby Active? If so, would Darkness Energy bonuses apply?
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yoshi1001
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posted July 03, 2003 04:26 PM
I would say offhand you couldn't do that, since you'd be attacking an active without targeting it. However, I can see where your idea comes from-even if I don't completely buy it.
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WizPoG_Pop
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posted July 03, 2003 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by dkates:
Speaking of Feint Attack, suppose it's a two-on-two battle, and one of your opponent's Active Pokemon is a baby, while the other isn't. If you use Feint Attack, can you "target" the non-Baby Active (bypassing the flip) but actually do the damage to the Baby Active? If so, would Darkness Energy bonuses apply?
Well, that works in Team Play, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in 2-on-2 play.
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dkates
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posted July 03, 2003 09:39 PM
*snickers* Looks like Babies might lose a little of their usefulness in 2-on-2. With this little trick, a Murkrow with a Darkness Energy and one other Energy can OHKO Active Babies without a flip. About time they got nerfed, eh?
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posted July 04, 2003 10:45 AM
Are you sure about the darkness Energy? I never have seen an exact ruling on whether darkness is applied, but I was under the assumption (no asume jokes please, lol) that if it isnt the Pokemon you are attacking, then it is not the "Defending Pokemon", therefore Dark Energy, or Plus Power/Strenght Charm and the likes would not be applied since they all say (or in Charms case, imply) adds damage only to the "Defending Pokemon"
I know there is a ruling on Exp Vileplume, that if you flip to Poison the "Defending Pokemon" that that is the Pokemon you must attack. Though this may not seem to have anything to do with this ruling, it does. How can there be 2 defending Pokemon.
Also note that in 2 vs 2, the rules state,
1)Choose a Pokemon to attack with
2)Choose and attack from that Pokemon
3)Choose 1 of your opponents Pokemon to attack
4)Apply all efeects of attacks
So in my understanding, 2 active babies, you would choose 1, flip to attack, and if the attack allows you to do damage or effects to both, or can be redirected (Feint Attack) then you would do so without a second flip, since your attack was already successfull.
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dkates
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posted July 04, 2003 11:27 AM
Well, when the Nintendo rules "become official," I think this trick will work; the wording on Nintendo's Darkness Energy says, "If the Pokemon Darkness Energy is attached to attacks, the attack does 10 more damage to the Active Pokemon (before applying Weakness and Resistance)." (emphasis mine) It doesn't say Defending. BTW, I was referring to a scenario where only the Pokemon receiving the damage is a Baby.
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