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Topic: 2 Interesting questions
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Golduck
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posted January 30, 2003 12:27 AM
I get many silly questions while judging, but sometimes, the players come up with questions so hard to answer that I just don't know what to answer. Here are two of them:
1. If you have a benched LC Venusaur and an active Expedition Tyranitar with 4 Grass Energy attached, could you move these 4 to the bench or not?
2. On "Pokemon Breeder Fields", the card does not state that you have to reveal the two Pokemon you searched for when flipping heads. Any other search card that tells you to search for a specific type of card (this means everything except Computer Search and Rocket's Experiment) says to show the card to your opponent!
"So I could just take 2 Trainer cards from my deck, not show them to my opponent, and say to my opponent that I chose two evolutions, right? Nobody would know I was cheating?"
said the kid. And he was right. Shouldn't this card get get fixed, to avoid easy cheating?
[ January 30, 2003, 12:28 AM: Message edited by: Golduck ]
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IPGeek21
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posted January 30, 2003 12:36 AM
1) If I am understanding Poke-bodies the answer is NO because the energy is no longer GRASS but darkness type (and poke-bodies are CONSTANT powers.)
2) It is in the Compendium... cards THAT allow a search into the deck to retrieve a certain type of card should be shown to the opponent.
IF my opponent does not In a tourney I WOULD call for the judge (to verify the correct card is taken from the deck.)
[ January 30, 2003, 12:37 AM: Message edited by: IPGeek21 ]
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Tahna
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posted January 30, 2003 06:37 AM
I've seen both questions pop up in the compendium and who am I to disagree with IPGeek21.
1. True, the pokébody is continuous and once the energies are attached to Expedition Tyranitar, they will be treated as darkness energy, so no go for Energy Trans, unless your opponent is playing Aquapolis Houndoom (the dark kind), of course, since the pokébody would be shut off after he would use its second attack.
2. If you can search your deck for a certain type of card, you must show it to your opponent in order to make sure it is the correct type.]
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PokePop
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posted January 30, 2003 06:48 AM
1. Since Energy Trans does not specify Basic Grass energy cards, you go by what type of energy the card is currently providing (I hate that new ruling, it adds a layer of confusion to this stuff). Since the cards are now providing Darkness energy, they can't be Trans'ed.
2. As mentioned, this is in the Compendium. If its not in the General section, it can be found under rulings for cards such as Energy Search, I believe.
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Dugtrio1951
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posted January 30, 2003 01:52 PM
I would think you WOULD be able to Energy Trans the Grasses, for this reason: even though they're providing Darkness Energy, they're still Grass Energy cards. Energy Trans states: "...you may take 1 {G} Energy card attached to 1 of your Pokémon..." Tyranitar's PokéBody doesn't say to treat them like [D] Energy cards, just that they're now [D] Energy. The cards themselves are still Grass Energy cards. So because of the fact that Energy Trans talks about "cards" and Dark Aura doesn't, I would rule in a tournament that the Darknessed-Grass Energies could be Energy Transed.
Is my thinking wrong somewhere?
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PokePop
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posted January 30, 2003 04:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dugtrio1951:
Is my thinking wrong somewhere?
-Dugtrio
Yes, but it's understandable. That is why the ruling I'm referencing is bad. It makes the above sound like the way things should work, but its not.
A card is named by the type of energy it provides with the sole exception of when it is specified that it is the Basic energy card of "X" name. The only application is Porygon2 and Ho Oh.
For this one case we get a mind bending exception that makes my mind reel. ![[NoNoNo]](../tcg/graemlins/nonono.gif)
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Dugtrio1951
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posted January 30, 2003 07:34 PM
Well if it's that confusing then I won't try to understand it, LoL. I'll go with what you're saying. I found the entry on this in the Compendium, too. Ah well, maybe I'll bring it up in the chat sometime.
Thanks for explaining it to me!
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