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vincent0906
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posted November 02, 2002 12:54 AM
Am... I think this question maybe asked many times but i haven't concern it be4 ......
The question is : When I have a blastoise in my bench, who can use my Raindance power???
Is both my team-mate and I? Or either of us in my choice???
Please help ![[Confused]](../tcg/confused.gif)
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PokePop
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posted November 02, 2002 10:11 AM
Base Set Blastoise is not a legal card for Team Play.
Only Neo Genesis on (including those cards reissued in Legendary Collection) and Promos 21 and on are legal for that format.
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vincent0906
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posted November 02, 2002 04:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PokePop:
Base Set Blastoise is not a legal card for Team Play.
Only Neo Genesis on (including those cards reissued in Legendary Collection) and Promos 21 and on are legal for that format.
No no no...
i want to ask it because Hong Kong haven't any illegal card so i want to build a Gatr-Blastoise deck with my friend. But the first problem i need to solve is this question.
Then the second is if I use some trainer that need to discard sth first(eg. CPU search), if i want my team-mate use it, which of us should discard sth?
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posted November 02, 2002 04:30 PM
I think what Pop is trying to say here is: since those cards are NOT legal in the TMP format, there ARE no "official" rulings on cards like Blastoise and CPUS for team play. Why would the MTs and Team Compendium make them, when the cards are not usable in "official" play?
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SlimeyGrimey
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posted November 02, 2002 04:31 PM
Uh... Blastoise was reprinted in Legendary wasn't it?
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yoshi1001
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posted November 02, 2002 04:42 PM
Nope, Dark Blastoise was. Blastoise had host of obstacles that prevented it from coming back.
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vincent0906
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posted November 03, 2002 02:43 AM
Those team-members are so lazy eh ![[Big Grin]](../tcg/biggrin.gif)
But professors, if you play privatly, what do you think in this case???
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posted November 03, 2002 05:51 AM
The fact of the matter is most of us wouldn't be caught dead judging a non-sanctioned TMP tournament that allowed Blastoise (and therefore, ug, Ditto). Besides, if you did run such a tournament, the local judge would have to make all the rules since there would be no official ruling source for most of the cards.
That's why you're not getting an answer-it wouldn't have much meaning.
Sorry.
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PokePop
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posted November 03, 2002 01:49 PM
But I would rule that you could only put your Water cards on your own Pokemon.
IF I were to make a ruling.
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posted November 04, 2002 02:22 AM
Whenever you put into play any continual Pokémon Power that specifies "your Pokémon," you must immediately designate whether it is targeting your Pokémon or your teammate's Pokémon (such as Dodrio's Retreat Aid). Once an effect has its target designated, that target cannot change while that Pokémon remains in play.
It means that i can let my teammate to use raindance, isn't?
One more question, if my team-mate is out-gamed(eg. no bench pokemon), and i have let him to use one pokemon power(eg.damage swap) be4. After he is defeated, can i use that power again???
Thz!
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posted November 04, 2002 02:34 AM
The answer to your second question is your teammate may not use any of your Pokémon's PokéPowers. You may target a continual Power to effect your teammate but your teammate cannot use non-targeting Powers like Damage Swap. Only the owner of Alakazam can use Damage Swap (though the owner can use to move damage counters around on his/her own Bench and his/her teammate's Bench (but not between the two)).
As for your first, sorry but cannot happen so i cannot answer it.
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PokePop
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posted November 04, 2002 06:17 AM
The reason that I say only you can use Raindace on your own Pokemon is because you are accessing the cards in your hand to do it.
You can't take a card from your hand and attach it to your partner's pokemon.
Also, you don't have access to your partner's hand to take a water energy from there and attach it to his Pokemon.
Therefore, you can only Raindance onto your own Pokemon.
As for the rest, I don't do Team Play rulings. They give me headaches.
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posted November 04, 2002 06:42 AM
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One more question, if my team-mate is out-gamed(eg. no bench pokemon), and i have let him to use one pokemon power(eg.damage swap) be4. After he is defeated, can i use that power again???
Assuming we were to substituate an applicable power (i.e. Retreat aid) in this example, the answer would be no. Powers are not reclaimed from defeated players.
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9. Once an effect has its target designated, that target cannot change while the Pokémon that originated the effect remains in play. This means that if you had Slowking target one opponent, if that player leaves the game, Slowking’s Pokémon Power cannot be retargeted unless that Slowking leaves and then reenters play.
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