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Gengar_Poke
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posted March 15, 2003 07:12 PM
This issue appeared several times today in a tournament: using Feint Attack, is the added damage due to the use of Darkness Energy neutralized by a Metal Energy on the defending Poke?
I know that this is the case for a benched Poke, and for me the wording of Feint supports the opposite solution for the defending. Any input on this?
[ March 16, 2003, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: Gengar_Poke ]
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BJJ763
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posted March 15, 2003 08:06 PM
Metal does not prevent the Darkness bonus. Feint attack's damage ignores all effects on the Defending so any Metal reduction gets ignored.
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jesschow12
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posted March 15, 2003 08:06 PM
if defending pokemon has metal and you feint attack it ,metal effect will be ignored because it says ignored everything on the defending pokemon(opponent's active
if bench pokemon has metal energy and you feint attack that pokemon,metal energy will reduce it.
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The Dark Llama
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posted March 15, 2003 08:59 PM
Now, some of the newer Feint Attack-ers say "ignore effects on that Pokemon" so they can ignore Metal on anything!
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posted March 15, 2003 09:37 PM
i want to know because of fluff on the aq jumpfluff it says prevents effects of attacks including damage so would the power work or would faint attack work
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The Dark Llama
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posted March 15, 2003 09:47 PM
I remember this one. Feint Attack targeting a Fluff Jumpluff (assuming this is the active Pokemon, as this will make the xplanatio simpler) will ignore the Poke-Body and do the damage. Besides, it's only 20 damage, nothing bad.
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posted March 16, 2003 11:44 AM
quote:
Originally posted by The Dark Llama:
I remember this one. Feint Attack targeting a Fluff Jumpluff (assuming this is the active Pokemon, as this will make the xplanatio simpler) will ignore the Poke-Body and do the damage. Besides, it's only 20 damage, nothing bad.
Unless you play Umbreon and have 2 or 3 Darkness energies. That's 50 or 60.
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321FlipsAreCool123
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posted March 16, 2003 11:45 AM
The Damage done by faint attack (Eg the 20 damage) Is NOT effected by metal, but the added 10 by darkness energy is. The attack does 20 damage PERIOD! No effect can shut that 20 off. But metal does shut off the EXTRA damage done by darkness. I know I heard somewhere why, but I can't remember right now.
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The Dark Llama
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posted March 16, 2003 01:20 PM
Remember, Umbreon only does 50 or 60 when it attacks the DEFENDING Pokemon
The Darkness Energy only adds damage when attakign the DEFENDING POKEMON
There is a rule somewhere saying the damage to a Benched Pokemon can't be changed by things that arent part of the attack (trainers or energy, etc..)
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posted March 16, 2003 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by 321FlipsAreCool123:
The Damage done by faint attack (Eg the 20 damage) Is NOT effected by metal, but the added 10 by darkness energy is. The attack does 20 damage PERIOD! No effect can shut that 20 off. But metal does shut off the EXTRA damage done by darkness. I know I heard somewhere why, but I can't remember right now.
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Incorrect. Darkness energy is not reduced by metal because darkness says the attack does 10 more damage, and the attacks damage is not reduced by effects on the defending Pokemon. Of course, this ony applies to the defending Pokemon.
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posted March 27, 2003 06:18 AM
Sorry to be replying so late but this is the first chance I had. I checked the compendium but did not see anything that referenced this specific situation. Please correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't it work this way:
Murkrow/Umbreon's Feint Attack (20/30 damage) would get past any metal energies thus doing the base damage. Then because the attack did damage you would add 10 for each dark and then subtract 10 for each metal.
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Onix95
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posted March 28, 2003 01:42 AM
Neo Feint attackers ignore Metal energy only if it is attacking the Defending Pokemon which has the metal energy, and gets the Darkness bonus. If for some reason Metal energy were attached to the Feint attacker or the opposing benched Pokemon, Metal energy would reduce the attack's damage.
"e" Feint attackers ignore any metal energy attached to any opposing Pokemon, but don't ignore any attached to itself. They also get the Darkness bonus when attacking the active, but not any bench.
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