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Topic: Rulings Review #6: Ditto vs. Sabrina's Alakazam
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MrGrass
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posted June 17, 2003 08:56 PM
Old Ruling: * Ditto, when it Transforms, copies what is written on the Defending Pokemon (its written HP, Weakness, etc.). It does not copy changed values on the other card (if the Defending Pokemon is painted into another color, or has more HP from attached energy like Sabrina's Gastly). (May 3, 2001 WotC Chat Announcements)
New Ruling: Q. Sabrina's Alakazam vs. Ditto. Obviously Ditto gets to use any Psychic Pokemon's Attacks from his bench, but does he copy Sabrina's Alakazam's Bench's attacks that are copied by it, thx to it's PP?
A. Sure, the answer lies in the wording of Sabrina's Alakazam's Psylink power. It states that Sabrina's Alakazam always has a copy of all attacks your Psychic Pokemon in play have. Therefore, a Ditto copying that S. Alakazam has those attacks too. The Pokemon power effectively adds those attacks to the card, just like Shift effectively changes the color of a card. This one's right from R&D. (May 24, 2001 WotC Chat, Q125; May 31, 2001 WotC Chat, Q51 & Q100 & Q103 & Q150)
Question/Theory: I think the second ruling is in error. If Ditto only copies the card opposite it, then it shouldn't get the attacks of the Alakazam's bench. Those effects would be a "changed value". Like how Ditto doesn't copy the altered HP of a Sabrina's Gastly with psychic energies attached. Any thoughts otherwise?
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PokePop
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posted June 17, 2003 09:17 PM
Hmmm.
OK, I'll go along with that.
If we view the extra attacks as an "effect" on 'Zam, then yes, Ditto would not get to copy them.
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jesschow12
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posted June 18, 2003 04:53 AM
don forget that u are copying the exact same card as the defending pokemon,so you can use the poke pow(this ruling is same as the blastoise one)
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NoPoke
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posted June 18, 2003 06:00 AM
I'd go along with you too Mr Grass....I always imagine Ditto as a mini-photocopier.
In your imagination take a colour photocopy of whatever card is facing Ditto. Cut a hole in the photocopy so that Ditto's pokemon power is still visible and paste the photocopy ontop of ditto.
so by my reasoning I'd give the opposite answer to R&D on Ditto facing Sabrina's Alakazam.
Can't say if I'm right or wrong just that I agree with both you and PokePop.
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WizPoG_Pop
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posted June 18, 2003 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by jesschow12:
don forget that u are copying the exact same card as the defending pokemon,so you can use the poke pow(this ruling is same as the blastoise one)
Of course Ditto would get to copy P attacks from his own bench, per the power.
The question was, would he also get the P attacks from S's Zam's bench!
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Otaku
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posted June 18, 2003 09:19 AM
Well, I can see one reason why it is the way it is. Simply put, since the power is treating the attacks as being "written" on, this is considered different. Now, how it is different from Sabrina's Gastlies effect, I don't know... but the coloring coutner involves just that: a counter. So perhaps it should copy Gastly's HP from the effect. Depends on if the HP is considered "written" on.
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WizPoG_Pop
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posted June 18, 2003 10:26 AM
I don't think so. I reread Sabrina's Alakazam, and it doesn't say that the attacks are "written on the card", it says that Sabrina's Alakazam "has a copy" of them.
To me, that makes the difference.
[ June 18, 2003, 10:28 AM: Message edited by: WizPoG_Pop ]
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NoPoke
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posted June 18, 2003 12:45 PM
It is a very interesting question MrGrass :-D
Maybe the word 'copy' is the key. When using a photocopier you can have 1st generation copies 2nd generation copies etc....perhaps Ditto is making a 1st generation copy of Sabrina's Alakazam which itself has managed a copy of its bench attacks...thus giving Ditto a 2nd generation copy of those attacks too.
I guess its time to search through the Oracle to find out if 'copy' does have a game meaning...
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