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Topic: Iggly, Pichu, or Magby
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j.
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posted October 15, 2002 04:17 AM
go with igglybuff because slowking is psychic so there is resistance in addition to the natural stallings of the baby ![[Big Grin]](../tcg/biggrin.gif)
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Dark and Vile
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posted October 15, 2002 04:39 AM
Iggly because you can use him from the bench to shut off Slowking's power. The only downside is when your opponent has multiple Slowkings. You need an Iggly per Slowking.
I wouldn't use Pichu because Pichu won't disable Slowking's power and it will take 4 attacks to knock one out. By then, your opponent will probably have played a Gold Berry, so you need 2 more attacks.
Magby could be interesting though. Does damage, plus gives you the NEXT turn to use trainers, plus has baby power and free retreat.
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IPGeek21
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posted October 15, 2002 11:57 PM
You forget two:
Brock's Mankey or SI jiggly.
I don't use iggly, PICHUS are used in slowking FOR THIS reason.
I prefer Pichu to ZAP everything with a power & maybe a magby (which CAN be quite annoying.)
Ever run:
1 Pichu
1 magby
1 Brock's Mankey?
or 1 pichu
1 magby
1 Grimer
1 Muk?
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CPUSrchDiscarding2forOak
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posted October 16, 2002 10:55 AM
Honestly, I don't think any of them will actually WORK -- but let's look at each:
Magby:
Pros: Shuts off all Slowkings for one turn
Cons: If KOed, effect ends, plus they have a prize and you have 1 less Magby. If Gusted, effect ends, and you have to use another turn's attack. If Slowking player has a baby out, and Sputter fails, well you're pretty much up a certain creek without a paddle.
Pichu:
Pros: 20 damage to all Kings in play
Cons: Takes 4 turns. Slowking players are known to either use Gold Berries or even TeCH in Pokemon Center to prevent this as they are using their own Pichus. Even a Pichu with a Focus Band will most likely be KOed before the Slowkings are.
Igglybuff:
Pros: Does not have to use its attack to shut off a Slowking, in the correct Unlimited deck can evolve out of a Mean Look
Cons: Need multiples and does nothing more to help you in a non-Wigglytuff based deck. Slowking player + Pichu + Strength Charm = all of your Igglies dead in one hit and only one attack used. (THIS IS THE BIG ONE.)
So, which should you use? One that would take 4 turns, one that if either gusted or KOed doesn't work anymore, or one that is vulnerable to the tiny electric rat?
I'd take either Iggly or Magby, maybe 2 Iggly/1 Magby or 3 Iggly altogether.
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IPGeek21
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posted October 16, 2002 11:40 AM
Strange analysis:
Your least convincing arguements and THOSE are the pokes you choose to use.
I am not a fan of Iggly.
But I also think this:
Pichu is all around. Never KNOW when someone will use powers.
Magby VERY situational BUT there is a cool strategy to use with this poke.
Iggly CAN be useful BUT I do not care for it.
IF YOU use powers THEN by all means use Magby/Iggly combo.
If you do not Use Pichu/Magby combo.
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Professor Warbuzz
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posted October 16, 2002 12:09 PM
I agree with IPGeek21, I depends if you are using Powers in your deck or not.
Is it true that magbys effect shuts off if he is benched? I did not know this.
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yoshi1001
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posted October 16, 2002 12:23 PM
And definitely don't use Pichu/Iggly. ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif)
Pichu hurts anything with a power, and is about the only way make someone think twice about that Entei in their hand(though specifically that's more modified). However, it isn't as good against Pokemon your opponent isn't going to voluntarily make active (and Slowking is pretty hard to make in active voluntatily as well). After all, that Pichu isn't likely to stay in play long enough to knock stuff out.
Magby is different, it works best against powers that your opponent needs to always work without interruption, like Transform and Shapeshift. It can work against Slowking, if you're willing to wait and hope your opponent doesn't KO or bench Magby.
Igglybuff has the advantage of working without attacking, but each one only takes out one Slowking's power. That reduces the number of flips, but to elimiate the threat you need a 1:1 ratio. Also, it's not good against very many powers, mostly just Slowking and Unown D/M/N.
None of these are silver bullets, but for plunking down a 30 HP basic, what do you expect?
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posted October 16, 2002 05:24 PM
I think Pichu is the best if your not using powers. I mean, so what if he is using gold berry. If he has 3 slowking out, that is 20 damage per turn to all 3 slowking. He would have to put a gold berry on all 3 of them and then he would have wasted them. Trust me, Pichu is so the best card to use. Its like murkrow only he isnt dark and he has a baby power. You attach a strength charm to pichu, and you get around the gold berry anyways. I mean, he does 30 to each of them and then you can do another 20 and 20 and all 3 are dead. Or strength charm and pluspower. Two turns, KO all 3! Awesome! Only downside, you cannot use any powers unless you want to be attacked.
One trick I have for you? Use porygon 2 or whatever and turn pichu to colorless, then use a uknown n and nobody on your bench will take damage. yey!
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yoshi1001
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posted October 16, 2002 06:15 PM
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One trick I have for you? Use porygon 2 or whatever and turn pichu to colorless, then use a uknown n and nobody on your bench will take damage. yey!
First of all , Porygon 2 changes the types of basic energy cards. Promo Smeargle changes pokemon's types, but only the other players, and never to colorless. Nothing personal, just pointing that out.
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Prime
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posted October 16, 2002 08:11 PM
Well crap, still isn't there a pokemon that can turn any pokemon's type to something else? Well if there was a card, you could use the little "trick" i suggested. But for now, just don't mind reading it. Still would be cool though.
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IPGeek21
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posted October 16, 2002 10:15 PM
That is correct MAGBY lost some luster, ESP. with AHEM, BJJ *shame on you!!*, the GOW/knocking out ends its effect.
BUT useful, QUITE useful it still is.
DO you care to play brock's mankey?
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posted October 23, 2002 06:22 PM
I always use Pichu and Magby. Iggly needs tons of space and you generally can't play more pokémons until your opponent kills your igglybuffs or you scoop up them because your bench is full. Magby is quick and practical. Sputter -> GOW -> KO or mean look Slowking.
Pichu isn't as fast as Magby, it is more situational and also can kill Iggly, Unown or other pokemons with a pkmn power.
Brock's Mankey is also useful, but it is very weak to GOW -> one hit KO.
That's all folks
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posted October 24, 2002 12:19 PM
Eh? I'd say magby cause i was recently in a tournement and i faced some guy who was playing slowking. I had 3 igglies on bench and a rocket zap as active. He computersearches for a PICHU and attaches a STRENGTH charm and kills all 3 of my igglies=/.
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posted October 24, 2002 04:14 PM
Ouch, Crazy Random -- but ya gotta admit that Expedition gave Slowking/Sneasel decks its newest and most powerful weapon to date.
It isn't so much that you're doing 10 more damage but the fact that you don't have to lay the Pichu down so your opponent may not expect it. Just play Pichu + Recycle E + Strength Charm and use a Switch (or retreat if baby/Sneasel) and your opponent will never see it coming -- but if you're only doing 20 they have one turn to plan (possibly attempt to gust in King, etc.)
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