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Topic: Supporter Cards
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Onix95
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posted October 01, 2002 10:16 PM
I have a question on how they are played.
In the new rule book, it says, "You can play only 1 Supporter card each turn. When you play a Supporter card, put it next to your Active Pokemon. When your turn ends, discard the Supporter card whether you used it or not."
Now, does that mean you don't have to use a Supporter WHEN you play it, and does that also mean that you can use it LATER in the turn, after you play it?
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Psychic_Prof
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posted October 01, 2002 10:17 PM
You can play it at any time during the turn (wether it's when you set it on the table or right before you attack), but it must be discarded at the end.
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Onix95
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posted October 01, 2002 10:53 PM
I realize it can be played at anytime, but can you use the card anytime after you play it?
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NoPoke
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posted October 02, 2002 01:22 AM
You mean like the Blaine trainer card that allows you to attach two energy cards instead of one?
The answer will depend upon the wording on the card....
Bill’s Maintenance
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Mary’s Impulse
Pokémon Nurse
Professor Elm’s Training Method
Professor Oak’s Research
Currently all of the cards activate immediately but that does not mean that there won't be alternatives like Blaine at some point in the future.
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Wai-Lam
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posted October 02, 2002 01:43 AM
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put it next to your Active Pokemon
According to my (possibly dated) rulebook, all cards that are "on the table" are considered in play. Thus a supporter-card would be put into play when played. So would that mean that when Chaos Gym is in play and a player flips tails when trying to play a Supporter, the opponent isn't allowed to play it due to the "put into play"-phrase?
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Dark and Vile
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posted October 02, 2002 04:00 AM
The phrase that is confusing is "whether you used it or not."
It sounds to me like "playing" the card and "using" the card are considered two different things.
What situation would there be where you would want to "play" the card without "using" it?
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yoshi1001
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posted October 02, 2002 06:54 AM
Ah, yes, Chaos Gym. Indeed, a supporter that fails there cannot be used by your opponent (this was ruled in chat a week or two ago).
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haymaker
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posted October 02, 2002 08:04 AM
does that mean you can play the supporter, use elm and then use the supporter or not?
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Professor_Sharkie
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posted October 02, 2002 08:10 AM
Some people at local league have been fighting over that you play it at the end of your turn and than use it at the end of your turn. But when I call Wizards CS they told me that it takes away the attack and that you can not attack but use the supporter instead. I am confused by the supporters myself. At first I thought it was played at the end of the turn and than the one other professor that run league said you use it as soon as you play it. SO my question is when do you use it?
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Dark and Vile
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posted October 02, 2002 09:42 AM
Whoa!
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But when I call Wizards CS they told me that it takes away the attack and that you can not attack but use the supporter instead.
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Can this be true? I realize that the TM works sort of like this, but is this true for Bill's Maintenance?
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yoshi1001
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posted October 02, 2002 10:27 AM
To my knowledge, here is how supporters work:
You play the card, and do its effect immediatly (unless told otherwise). The card then stays in play until the end of your turn, then you discard it. They do not replace your attack to my knowledge.
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RabidRaichu
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posted October 02, 2002 10:32 AM
From the way I read it, you play the Supporter and act on it WHEN you Play IT! Then you put it down on the table TO SHOW THAT YOU'VE USED a Supporter that turn -- It's book keeping people. You are only allowed one per turn, and if there is one down in front of you there is no question as to wether or not you've already played one. That's the only reason! It's not "in play". It is just a reminder that "Oh Yeah, I already played a Supporter Card this turn!".
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Lord_Ninetales
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posted October 02, 2002 11:05 AM
RabidRaichu is right - its played instantly, but is put "in-pay" simply to show that you have used one. This was mentioned at one of the chats.
The fact that it is put into play does mean that it can't be played by your opponent via Chaos Gym though...
That's some horrible mis-information you got, "Professor_Sharkie ".
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Professor_Sharkie
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posted October 02, 2002 11:28 AM
I asked him if it was was for all the supporters and not just the TM and he said that it was for all of them.
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yoshi1001
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posted October 02, 2002 11:37 AM
It's a known fact that that the WotC phone people aren't always 100% on Pokemon stuff. Whenever possible, get your info from the MTs.
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PokePop
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posted October 02, 2002 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Professor_Sharkie:
I asked him if it was was for all the supporters and not just the TM and he said that it was for all of them.
That may be the point of confusion.
The TM is not a Supporter!
The TM does replace your attack, but it is attached to your Active, not played beside it like the Supporters are.
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DarkcrobatsR4me
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posted October 03, 2002 02:21 PM
Unfortunately, that dispute was between me and another person at our league. I emailed wizards myself and they said you would use the supporter when you play it. I am still confused tho since there are 3 different rulings on it now. Has any professors got anything about supporters in their email?
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PokePop
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posted October 03, 2002 03:56 PM
e-mails from customer support don't count.
It was ruled on in the chat today. Look for it in the compendium soon.
You play it immediately
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