posted February 04, 2003 03:41 PM            

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My question to you, the reader is this, do you think that [Fan Club] is a viable and/or staple card in our game right now?

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posted February 04, 2003 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Dugtrio1951:
[QUOTE][b]But every mom and pop deck that's made shouldn't have 3 or 4 of these things in it.
-Dugtrio

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Yeah, I'm not putting 3 or 4 in my decks. How'd you know?
After seeing all those 4-5 reviews over on the Pojo card of the day, I was beginning to wonder if I had read the card right. Sure, its a nice card, but as a supporter? I'd give it a 3-4 rating at best. Good, but not a staple.

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posted February 04, 2003 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Gymbo:
G'day all,
It is only useful at the very beginning of the game when you need development. I suppose if you play a lot of tecH cards it has some use there too. I just don't see this card having my valued gameplay value once several turns go by. Time is the most important factor in this game, and when you are midway through the game, why do you need to place two Baby or Basic Pokemon on your Bench?

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(warning - I got quite carried away in nostalgia here but I liked what I said so I left it The reason I went into detail about the stages of play is because it has been my observation that many trainers don't realize they are stuck in early game thinking when they need to move into mid-late game mode)
Hey Gymbo - glad to see ya back - seemes like the Pojo crowd kinda divorced themselves for awhile.
Anyway here's my thoughts - feel free to disagree. First an overall analysis:
As you well know there are 3 stages to the game; early, mid and late. The pace of the game is set with two clocks; 1 card per turn draw, and one energy per turn. Speed up either of these clocks Oak, DCE) and you gain advantage (speed kills - in a good way!). Slow down the other guys clock (SER, Lass)and you effectively speed up yours. Back in the heyday of trainermon (the stuff you and I cut our teeth on) the emphasis was getting control early game, thus the general dominance of haymakers for this time as they had cheap attacks and were relatively beefy. They could survive being nuked with an SER, they could be scooped and return to action in a flash and there weren't no freakin babies to deal with. Slap an energy on and go pounding. BooooYAH! - those were the days of raw, mindless power. No need to progress to midgame and only Mulligan Mewtwo and Damage Swap held out for the long run.
But - think Mad Max and Road Warrior here - those haymakers thrived on chaos and hi-octane trainers like Oak, Lass, SER/ER, Plus Power and Item Finder to do it one more time for the hell of it.
Now they're gone and the days of stroking thru your deck for exactly what you wanted are down the tubes. So now we play a slower game which forces us to target the mid and late game. Closest thing we really have to the old days is EnCargo, which is actually a mid-game deck with excellent speed as it bypasses the energy clock - most other modified decks are either swarm or beatsticks - but the common factor of almost all modified decks is that they use babies to stall,card cycle, and even attack while the big boys get set up. Now the focus is try to get to mid game first, get the evos out and energy applied. So I guess you could look at babies as a form of generic combo.
Now (finally!) to my answer. Yes - I think it is a good card - best used in moderation *with* Trader and Breeder. Get you past the early game with a baby and a basic, and into the mid-game as soon as possible which is where all the good modified battles are happening - after that use it as fodder for Bills Maintenance.

[ February 04, 2003, 04:23 PM: Message edited by: ScythKing ]

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posted February 04, 2003 06:12 PM           

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Why would I draw two cards with Fan Club (and only get Basics/Babies) when I can play Elm and draw seven cards (and get all types of cards, possibly the ones I would have wanted with Fan Club)?

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It is only useful at the very beginning of the game when you need development

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I can think of many times i needed a baby/basic on the bench to save me late game. Fortunetley, there are some unfortunete coin flippers out there when i place cleffa active .

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