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Topic: Been a long time... and staidum card question
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Dio_theBlBelt2
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posted August 02, 2003 12:30 PM
Hey It's been a while
I got a question. When I wish to retreat my active pokemon and there is a Mirage Stadium card out in play, do I discard my energy first, before I flip (like being confused) or do I discard the proper energy after I flip (if sucsessful)?
Thanks
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WizPoG_Pop
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posted August 02, 2003 12:48 PM
It says right on the card that you only discard after a successful flip.
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Spectreon
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posted August 03, 2003 07:17 AM
For some odd reason they ruled this one funny
You flip for what is on your side of the feild first.......... so the scenerios are
You flip for Confusion check or Stadium first, your choice if you control stadium
If your Opponent controls it, you flip for confusion, then the stadium.
Either way if you fail on the stadium, you do not discard.
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From: Lavender Town, Kanto | Registered: Jan 2002
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scizorulz87
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posted August 04, 2003 10:21 PM
not true, for confusion you discard before flipping, so if you get heads on Mirage after that you discard twice the energy.
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From: Rockford, Illinois "The Prairie State" (go Illini) | Registered: Jul 2003
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NoPoke
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posted August 05, 2003 02:22 AM
have a look here
http://archivedboards.wizards.com/tcg-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb =get_topic;f=76;t=003906 for the previous discussion on this card.
Currently they efects are sequenced: Mirage First, then Confusion. but it could change again
quote: from The Compedium == MIRAGE STADIUM (Skyridge Expansion)
Q. Since Mirage Stadium's effect takes place before energy is discarded, and the confusion retreat flip happens after energy is discarded, shouldn't you always flip for Mirage Stadium first when trying to retreat? A. Yes, that is correct. We are clarifying it. Mirage stadium states checking before removing energy, Confusion states checking after. (Jun 19, 2003 WotC Chat, Q2030 & Q2045)
[ August 05, 2003, 02:51 AM: Message edited by: NoPoke ]
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WizPoG_Pop
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posted August 05, 2003 10:00 AM
It won't change again.
Unless PUSA plans on reruling on old card sets. Not likely.
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