Chad: I dont think too many people disagree with you, just a vocal few. The card is good and will help in consistency, not hurt it.
Keith
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Chad: I dont think too many people disagree with you, just a vocal few. The card is good and will help in consistency, not hurt it.
Keith
The bold is where you are completely wrong. Any basic is a good start with Call Energy.
It should... they can use it... but you can't search for 'em...
afstandopleren
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Seems good. Yet, I think Scizsor MD's popularity will rise. 80 damage for 1 energy if the defending pokemon has a special energy attached is really dangerous.
It's even more risky to use because of it's effect since it ends your turn!
It's even more risky to use because of it's effect since it ends your turn!
so, scizor isn't going to be played much as it is (because of the metal requirement)... so a rise won't be noticed much....
and it's effect is a slightly worse pachi... so it's not bad that its effect ends the turn...
afstandopleren
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Go Multi Energy!
Besides, there is only 1 way around Call Energy's turn-ending effect: Dialga lv.X with proper coin flips.
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yes, but unless it's a metal deck:
1. dialga wouldn't be in here (and even if it was it probably wouldn't)
2. Dialga LV X is useless for most other things...
yoyofsho16
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why? thats a turn two evolution, and you cant even attack with it. cant most of us already get out a main attacker by turn one or two?
Papi/Manny
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Yay and when t2 crystal/wager/beach happens...? :/ Theres very little, if any, card advantage call gives over pachi. Call=basic energy. Pachi=windstorm. Both obviously are not as efficent as there replacements but both do thier job efficently. Call is a good card, but its definately not the play in every deck. And if call energy becomes a "staple", then I dont' see why cess won't make a huge comeback.
vanderbilt_grad
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Can you explain?
What can even GET that kind of a T2? You're insane.
Do I have to spell out everything? Pachirisu is NOT Windstorm! It may be the first few turns, but that's it. After that it's a TERRIBLE draw for the REST of the game. Call Energy is NOT. Call can be used in place of Energy in decks that can afford it, and believe me there's a lot that can do it EFFECTIVELY.
For some reason you seem to think that a T2 Cessation and Beach is going to ruin anything with Call Energy. For the amount of times that you get that God start and maintain consistency throughout the game, a deck with Call Energy and Roseanne's will get setup 3 times as much.
The card isn't the play in EVERY deck. Please show me where I said that? I said it was BROKEN. Pidgeot RG was broken and wasn't in every deck.
Papi/Manny
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Why do you need t2 beach? I was just throwing that in there for kicks. Beach isn't even that great anymore. t2 cess/wager is very likely. Not highly probable but its going to happen t2/3 very often. And please show me the card advantage? You still need to run just as many cards as with pachi. Windstorm is needed in any deck that runs call, so the "card advantage" is gone. Like I pointed out before, why wouldn't anyone do pachi/cyclone? And please, we both know that last paragraph is a load. Nobody runs draw anymore. They all run claydol. I cess your dol early, you have no draw, you don't get set up. Simple as that. Getting the other deck set-up is the problem. But thats where a good number of draw comes into play. Castaway is still in format. Obviously alot of decks can't manage this, but the only thing keeping cess from making a comeback is pachi. Pachi is a terrible draw late game? Emp needs basics to keep up heavy damage. Not a good basic to draw into but its actually a basic. Both cards are pretty much claydol bait. While its true that most attacks have 2 energy/1 colorless requirements, running multiple calls and scrambles is definately going to cause some energy problems. I never said you said that so don't put words in my mouth. I said if it becomes a staple..., which I never said you ever said.
You replace 4 energies in your deck with Call Energy, you no longer need a starter. Thats 4 cards you have extra for draw/search/w/e. Card Advantage.
... Because then you are stuck with a semi-obsolecent Pacharisu for the rest of the game if they don't knock it out. And what deck would rather run CC than set themselves up with Claydol? Empoleon is better off using It to set themselves up, and simply punish people for using their powers.
Bull. Draw is still put into almost every deck that can fit it in, and will be put into more now that GG isnt the insanely dominant monster it used to be. Draw is played in decks.
I'd sooner setup more Empoleon/Claydol/Aerodactyl/What Ever Techs on my bench than a useless 70hp basic, ty.
Possibly, in decks like that you simply do not use Call Energy. No one ever said it was going to be used in EVERY deck, but the consistancy boost at a very small price and next to no cost in space is more welcome than... a small electric rodent who can get get rid of tools.
Considering you are talking as if he said it goes in every deck, you are really one to talk about putting words in peoples mouths. An energy card that provides card advantage with no real built in restriction is amazing, one that grabs basics is just plain amazing, possibly even broken. How are you not seeing it?
vanderbilt_grad
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The thing is that Cess DIDN'T go away with Patchi. Some decks with Cess did very well at regionals. Cess players just adapted ... most decks with Patchi didn't play windstorm so the Cess players would attach one to the active and another to a benched pokemon. That way if patchi got the active they would just bring up the benched pokemon with cess and use it to KO the patchi ... and keep the cess lock in place.