Murder falls under the umbrella of "anti-social" behavior.
But you don't discuss it as the lowest common denominator.
You discuss it as the much higher level that it is.
When PUI outlaws deceptive behavior, they're not talking about cheating because that is already a much higher offense.
How is holding up a random card from your hand ANY different then acting like your hand is junk so your opponent will wager you, or acting like a key card is prized? IMO they really arn't any different. As far as I remember bluffing only is only considerd deception when you start to lie in someway about what you have.
How is holding up a random card from your hand ANY different then acting like your hand is junk so your opponent will wager you, or acting like a key card is prized? IMO they really arn't any different. As far as I remember bluffing only is only considerd deception when you start to lie in someway about what you have.
Setting a copy of Dusknoir so your opponent can SEE it is VERY different than holding up a face down card as if your preparing a power spray. Having a Dusknoir there is very obviously meant to lead your opponent to believe that you have dusknoir in your deck. Now holding up a card could be ANYTHING. They don't have to believe it, and they may not even know what your trying to do. Can we please get some form of ruling on this?
darthpika: didn't we already have this 'power spray deception' discussion on the OP professor boards? and wasn't the response the same, it's not acceptable and will be penalized?
and now you're surprised you're getting the SAME replies from the same judges who told you months ago this isn't acceptable gameplay?
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I don't think I ever asked that on the prof fourms, as I havn't been on for a while.
What I don't understand that holding a card up is considerd "not acceptable", when its perfectly fine to act like a key card is prized, or that you have a lousy hand. :/
Maybe because hinting that you have Power Spray could have a direct effect on your opponent's play, making them hold on to an Uxie, say.
Just hinting you have a bad hand or prizes isn't going to affect the opponent's strategy in that immediate way. It might make them overconfident, but it won't make them hesitate over playing a set up card.
i just sent you the link to your less-than-a-month-old post; i won't post it here as the OP boards are closed forums.I don't think I ever asked that on the prof fourms, as I havn't been on for a while.
What I don't understand that holding a card up is considerd "not acceptable", when its perfectly fine to act like a key card is prized, or that you have a lousy hand. :/
One of my personal favorite ways to trick opponents is playing little mind games during the battle. Nothing that's cheating, but stuff that will make them think twice before doing a move.
For example, lets say I'm using a G deck, and my opponent is using kingdra.
I have 3 G pokemon in play and its my opponents 2nd turn. They have no claydol in play and are still setting up. My opponent playes a roseanne, and searches the deck. While they do this I hold up a card (so they can't see what it is) as if I'm getting ready to power spray the Uxie that they want to take. Seeing this, they take a Baltoy instead, buying me extra time. I don't even NEED a power spray in my hand to hold of Uxie drops. Just reminding your opponent that you MIGHT have one can be very powerfull, and quite tricky.
After the game you can tell them, "ya, remember that power spray I was holding up in the beginning of the game? Well, it really was just a water energy." lol
One of my personal favorite ways to trick opponents is playing little mind games during the battle. Nothing that's cheating, but stuff that will make them think twice before doing a move.
For example, lets say I'm using a G deck, and my opponent is using kingdra.
I have 3 G pokemon in play and its my opponents 2nd turn. They have no claydol in play and are still setting up. My opponent playes a roseanne, and searches the deck. While they do this I hold up a card (so they can't see what it is) as if I'm getting ready to power spray the Uxie that they want to take. Seeing this, they take a Baltoy instead, buying me extra time. I don't even NEED a power spray in my hand to hold of Uxie drops. Just reminding your opponent that you MIGHT have one can be very powerfull, and quite tricky.
After the game you can tell them, "ya, remember that power spray I was holding up in the beginning of the game? Well, it really was just a water energy." lol
This post is indicative of the way you play. I know 1st hand watching you try to take an 8 minute
turn against me last year at Nats., then dropping the SECOND Clay Mitchell gave us a 5 minute extension ( as I take my last 4 prizes the next turn I got to win, you saw it).
What your suggesting here is borderline cheating imho. You are trying to deceive your opponent
and i don't believe this is legal.If you have the spray, great. Use it ( if you have the required pokes in play). But don't try to alter what he/she gets w/ their roseanne's by acting like you have the spray ( wether you do or not).
I liked Keith's way of handling nonsense like this and I hope others do the same.
I angle shot Andrew Cox at Nats. last year- cost me a game loss ( deserved) and a shot to
play at table 1. I learned my lesson.
Pika, i hope you learn some lessons on gamesmanship as - from what I've seen and read- you could
use to.
Let's say that one of my opponent is doing the same thing that DarthPika is describing. If i decide to play uxie regardless and they did not powerspray, can I then call the judge for perceive unsportmanship?
7.6.2. Major
Players are expected to behave in a respectful manner to all attendees and staff of a Pokémon TCG event. Players who don’t behave properly need to be reminded to with the issuance of a penalty. Infractions in this category have a direct impact on event operation or cause a small degree of emotional distress to those around them.
Examples of Unsporting Conduct: Major include:
Recommended Starting Penalty:
- Leaving a large amount of garbage in the tournament area.
- Failure to comply with the instructions of the event staff.
- Engaging in gamesmanship/rules lawyering.
- Attempting to manipulate a match through intimidation or distraction.
- Refusal to sign a match slip.
- Defacing the tournament area.
- Making legal plays which have no effect on the game in progress to manipulate the time remaining in a match.
- Playing slowly to manipulate the time remaining in a match.
Tier 1: Prize Card
Tier 2: Game Loss