rokman
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Because almost every post in this thread is just that? :thumb:Why would we come on here and tell you that you're wrong?
Because almost every post in this thread is just that? :thumb:Why would we come on here and tell you that you're wrong?
Nitpicking at my choice of words. *shrug*
Yes, it is. Things are bound to go wrong and ~90% of the time it's a ridiculously small issue that has no effect on anything, but it's the judge who makes it a bigger issue.
Also, NoPoke, aren't you in ENGLAND? I have no earthly idea what things are like for you over there, so how would you know what it's like for me????????????
It's getting really exhausting defending my opinions because every single word or phrase I'm using is being thrown in my face, so just forget it.
Because almost every post in this thread is just that? :thumb:
Well, him being in England changes a lot. I have never met a judge from England (I have a few players though) and basically know nothing about how things are handled there. And I wouldn't for a second expect him to know what it's like in the Southern United States........What has his location have to do with judging principles??? Ian has been at every Worlds that I can think of in the last 6 yrs or more, ON STAFF. Last I checked, he had to judge US players in those matches, along with the rest of the world. Again, you "attack" someone for no reason. I guess that was a "random attack".
And that's totally awesome, I really think that's great. I would very much appreciate a judge to show me in the text why I was given a penalty and the consequences if I was given one. And when/if that happens, I'll be sure to ask for it in text.I carry the penalty guidelines with me when I judge. I dont carry around a copy of the Compendium (I used to though). I often pull out the page where a rule is and the recommended penalty, so the player understands the reason for the ruling and penalty. Quite often though, we are asked Q's that involve card interaction. That is not covered under the rules and penalties. Heck, it may not have made it into the Comp X even! It isnt always that easy to "pull out text" to prove the point. A judge rules. If you disagree, ask for the HJ. The HJ may or may not pull out text, but they will rule. At that point, you move on.
Keith
Come on now. That's a bit ridiculous. I'm not going to ask the highway patrol to show me the speeding law. That would be very disrespectful....
But, my idea was this, when a judge is sent to a table and asked a ruling (tiny ones to major ones), s/he needs to bust out a rule book, find the text, point at it, show it to the players, and read it. This would prevent a.) wrong rulings b.) judges feeling the need to acknowledge they were wrong/whatever c.)a smoother tournament with less problems. d.) removes any inconsistency between different judges.
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Well, with that analogy, there are speed limit signs next to the road like every mile......Come on now. That's a bit ridiculous. I'm not going to ask the highway patrol to show me the speeding law.
He would know as a Pokeparent who has extensive judging experience in multiple counties including the U.S. at events like Worlds. Just sayin. :thumb:Also, NoPoke, aren't you in ENGLAND? I have no earthly idea what things are like for you over there, so how would you know what it's like for me????????????
I must say that I do find the obvious alliance between high-rank staff and know-nothing PokéParents somewhat aggravating at times. What obvious alliance? No seriously what obvioius alliance. That is a major accusation.
My issue isn't so much judges who have been promoted without knowledge of the game as parents who receive preferential treatment from staff at events. Without Knowledge????: you need to give examples. And "without knowledge" would be a BIG issue for me so why not you? Perhaps this is just scaremongering and you can't give examples? (If you can then don't do it here)
I cannot stand staff members judging a children's card game who clearly hate teenagers,HATE TEENAGERS?? again any event where the staff behaves that way needs to be reported not brought up as a general accusation without substantiation. but who are hearty friends with all the PokéParents. more wild accusation? As a result, I've seen juniors who have misplayed, etc. who are the prodigy result of a deeply invested PokéParent get preferential treatment over other kids. Disgusting. I've seen bias too. mostly in the very early days, it was why I switched from player to judge. If it is still occurring regularly then it is disgusting and does need to be addressed. Railing and wailing here won't help though
Again, though, in this area Jimmy and the other tournament organizers are pretty careful about having good judges and avoiding preferential treatment to PokéParents/their kids.
I must say that I do find the obvious alliance between high-rank staff and know-nothing PokéParents somewhat aggravating at times.