N3rd4Christ
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Solution: Sell TIn's for $40 each. Problem Solved!
Mewtwo, Darkrai, Rayqauza EX ALL to be tin Promos in Fall
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HerpTheDerp
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There is always complaining about that, no one wants to see their favorite deck go away, be it rotation or new stronger strategies from new releases. But that is a Necessary and a known fact that at some point, it will happen. Investing a whole lot into a deck for States/BR's/Nats and the rest of the format to only find out a week later that you lost a lot of money due to the fact that your main cards are now mass produced, is not.
Mewtwo EX, Darkrai EX, and Rayquaza EX will be in the top tiers for the BW-On format for a very long time, solely for their sheer ease of set up, versatility, and ease of huge damage respectively. So they were, at the time, great investments. I'm not arguing about the necessity of a balanced format nor the validity in the statement that those tins are good for the game. But I'm also not arguing that those who did invest in those cards don't have the right, and rightly so, to be upset about it.
Poor choice of words, my friend. We all know Flash Drives are better anyways.
Sorry but tins, rotations, etc. etc. are part of the game. Put on your big girl panties and get over it. Nobody is forcing these players to spend 60-80 bucks on a piece of card board.
That may be blunt, but it's true.
If you're a truly competitive player, you'll get the cards knowing that they will eventually rotate out. So, yes, rotations and such are to be expected, and value drops are unavoidable.
However, this is quite an interesting situation, as the contents of the tins were quite unexpected. I'm sure many people were expecting Rayquaza and Giratina (tins don't always come in trios). Having two of the most used cards in the format, Darkrai and Mewtwo, in these tins was very unexpected, hence why there was a lot of doubt earlier. I think people are still adjusting to that shock, and are right now upset.
Consider this the second stage of grief; at first, many were denying that they were in the tins, now they are upset that their cards will be devalued. Now, there's really not much bargaining that could be fathomed, so the next step will probably be people saying that they're going to leave the game, blah blah blah, you know the drill. Afterwards, they will realize that's just how things will be, and will accept this. Then we'll go on until some other twist comes around.
(note: the "you" referenced here is a general term, not referring to a specific person)
EDIT: Anyways, back on topic. Official name is Legendary EX Tins.
However, this is quite an interesting situation, as the contents of the tins were quite unexpected. I'm sure many people were expecting Rayquaza and Giratina (tins don't always come in trios). Having two of the most used cards in the format, Darkrai and Mewtwo, in these tins was very unexpected, hence why there was a lot of doubt earlier. I think people are still adjusting to that shock, and are right now upset.
Consider this the second stage of grief; at first, many were denying that they were in the tins, now they are upset that their cards will be devalued. Now, there's really not much bargaining that could be fathomed, so the next step will probably be people saying that they're going to leave the game, blah blah blah, you know the drill. Afterwards, they will realize that's just how things will be, and will accept this. Then we'll go on until some other twist comes around.
(note: the "you" referenced here is a general term, not referring to a specific person)
EDIT: Anyways, back on topic. Official name is Legendary EX Tins.
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HerpTheDerp
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Now it seems that you are arguing for the sake of being right. No where in my posts did I state I was complaining or that I don'w welcome the tins. It's not often, if ever, that such high priced cards are released in such a manner. Yes there have been reprints of tournament staples but not $50-$60 cards that are a NECESSITY for the deck you are playing. And again no one said they are forcing them to buy it, but the fact remains that the unexpected and unprecedented release of such tins with this many High-end cards, is going to cause frustration to some people. If you cannot get that then I have nothing further to say to you. I have stated my arguments in a concise and logical format. The only arguments you have put forth are the very flimsy "no one is making you buy them just borrow it" or "it's part of the game get over it". Neither of which are strong enough arguments to keep regurgitating.
is great for the game b/c it allows players that aren't as wealthy to be able to afford the cards. Period. End of story. That is my argument, which I've stated many times. Plus it puts the money back in the hands of tpci and not T&T, collectorscache, etc.
Thanks for the link, immewnity!
Interesting you chose Yanmega as an example. It dropped largely because it was released in a promo box, not because of other cards. It wouldn't be a $45 card today if the box had not been released, but it wouldn't be $5 either.
You seem hung up on semantics and incapable of actually arguing the point. People that want the best chance of winning will need to build decks from the entire card pool, with no restrictions. If that means using $50 cards, then so be it. That was a lot more words than "serious", but that is what was meant. Its a choice, but one that people make. Why should they be punished for it by having their investment quickly devalued by an influx of a new supply of these rare cards shortly later? Pokemon making the best cards superrare and then making them common later on is also a choice. They are hurting some segment of their customer base by doing so, and there are certainly alternatives to this choice as others have posted.
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Medaforcer
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Not a fan of the art on those cards compared to the originals, but I know when to take what I can get.
Shino Bug Master
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Mewtwo looks pretty cool. Derprai is very derp, Rayquaza's kinda neutral.
StormFront
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TCIP remind me of what to think of corrupt governments. Only believe a story when they try to deny it.
PokeCollection
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Nope, I wasn't trolling at all. I hope everyone now knows that I'm not one to mislead people, but again, I don't blame anyone for particularly thinking that. PokeBeach have released this earlier than anticipated, and even the type of images they've published is different to what we received earlier today, however they're still pretty awesome and we're glad you can now have a look! We have been instructed to not release anything yet, so we will be respecting TPCi's decision on that front, even if the tins have been released.
On that note, I will be exclusively revealing the theme decks from Dragons Exalted later tonight, and I've been given the go-ahead for that, so should be good
On that note, I will be exclusively revealing the theme decks from Dragons Exalted later tonight, and I've been given the go-ahead for that, so should be good
TheRolesWePlay
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Not really. Exobyte (the one who originally said something) was more commenting on the fact that the original announcement said there was no official connection between PokeCollection and TPCi (which PokeCollection said was an error if I recall), and that Mewtwo isn't a dragon type. (and if you'll notice PokeBeach called them Legendary Tins instead of Dragon Tins)
TheRolesWePlay
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A few things...
First Yanmega dropped in price for more than one reason. Yes the new Prime Boxes devalued it, but it was also largely irrelevant starting around that time as NV had just come out, and new cards were making it more useless.
Second, how is a three month period not enough of a heads up? People who are buying them now are mostly people who need them for Nats/Worlds, and therefore the investment should still be worth it. If you found yourself buying them and not needing them, then you can still sell them off. The price of the cards are still likely to go up before the tins are released.
Third, TPCi doesn't care as much about the secondary market, and the subsequent fall in price. If anything this is a response to a number of people complaining that specific cards are becoming too expensive.
PokeCollection
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That's correct. I also highlighted the fact that I labelled them as 'Dragon Tins' because that's how they were labelled when I was sent the information. I also suggested that it's probably going to sound something like 'Fall 2012 Ex Tins', similar to what we've gotten in the past. 'Dragon Tins' was only referred to as such because it will be based after the release of Dragons Exalted, which is guaranteed to contain a DREX pack or two. Plus, Mewtwo isn't dragon; neither is Terrakion
Glad the news is out there now, though. I will post higher quality images next week, when I am able to
EliGagerNorris
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Gotta be honest: artwork really isn't good at all.
However, that doesn't matter in the slightest.
However, that doesn't matter in the slightest.
ZombieFrankenstein
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If I were a cat, I wouldnt enjoy these any less. I like these tins. Happy day!
I am wondering how the new EX's will change the game, if at all. It looks like Darkrai and Mewtwo are pretty strong. I am thinking a lot of the people running fighting to counter the meta will become kinda rock paper scissors if the mewtwos become more assessable. (Since I see a lot of fighting to counter ZekEels and DarkraiEX) I still don't know what Rayquaza does, I hope that 60x has nothing to do with coinflips.
I think that the tins will be good for the game because it boosts availability for players who don't have as much money. This lessens the gap between skill and money. (This is more of a YGO problem but is seen in pokemon sometimes too) All players should have access to good cards, because it depends upon how you use them. You could have all the power cards in the world and if you didn't know how to build and more importantly, play your deck power cards would be nothing.
I think that the tins will be good for the game because it boosts availability for players who don't have as much money. This lessens the gap between skill and money. (This is more of a YGO problem but is seen in pokemon sometimes too) All players should have access to good cards, because it depends upon how you use them. You could have all the power cards in the world and if you didn't know how to build and more importantly, play your deck power cards would be nothing.
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