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Thieves caught on video at Worlds, TPCi does nothing

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2. I own or owned duplicates of each of the three boxes. I will never see the skyla one again.

The only way this would make sense is if you took his deckboxes INSTEAD of yours by mistake (since you own the same ones). How did you walk away with his as well as yours?
 
I just wanted to clarify exactly what happened here. Jon admits that he took Mees's cards, but claims it was a mistake, that he owns three identical deck boxes as Mees? After 15 minutes, Jon wasn't able to tell that none of these three deck boxes were his?
 
What I don't get, if one were to rummage through someone else's bag, wouldn't it be courteous and prudent to tell them why you're rummaging through their bag beforehand?
 
It would be interesting to know the criteria TPC uses for issuing bans. Favoring one player over another when dishing out discipline is so very wrong. It is like if the NFL suspended a backup linebacker for Drunk Driving but when a Star QB is guilty of that they say "We can't do anything because it did not happen during a game." Come on... it is clear that something needs to be done! If theft at Worlds has been dealt with by bans in the past then it needs to happen this time as well. Anything less is a making mockery of past punishments, and no one else should ever be banned from the game again.

IF TPC refuses to act in this case then perhaps the person who suffered the theft should try to see if someone at Nintendo might be more responsive, as ultimately Pokémon is a Nintendo product and this situation puts a black mark on this product.
 
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I am so over this story. Mere, I'm sorry but its your own responsibility to
Protect your things. Lets just call everyone involved a jerk and move on.
 
I am so over this story. Mere, I'm sorry but its your own responsibility to
Protect your things. Lets just call everyone involved a jerk and move on.

Blame the victim! How about Gino's responsibility to not steal?

And also, why is Mees a jerk?!! He gets his MacBook stolen and he's a jerk? Wow pretty cold blooded...
 
I am so over this story. Mere, I'm sorry but its your own responsibility to
Protect your things. Lets just call everyone involved a jerk and move on.

Yes, let's blame all victims of a crime for being stupid/being at the wrong place/wrong time, call all criminals jerks and move on... let's never make a big deal out of anything, because, it's 'tiring'

Wow, just, wow
 
They "can't do anything?" What do you mean? Of course they can! He's the judge, jury, and executioner -- they own the game, run the OP, control all the rules and can do whatever they like! A flick of the wrist and its done. He is choosing to hide behind some technicality -- one applied so inconsistency in precedents that the "rule" doesn't appear to be one at all!

The fact is, the only reason Gino or anyone else isn't banned is because Dave doesn't want them to be. I sincerely hope that this thread will help change his mind.


Well technically they can ban them, according to their Terms of Service, I think they have a clause for stuff like this.
Another issue I think is there isn't enough evidence what was in the bag, ie the notebook/whatever.
Also banning Gino wont get Mees his stuff back.


@ Jason / Sealing isn't a joke, I don't care what Jon Said :p
 
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Gino has a facebook post saying he's pursuing legal action against the pokegym because this thread has stayed open. Oh well.
 
Gino has a facebook post saying he's pursuing legal action against the pokegym because this thread has stayed open. Oh well.

From someone who used to date a lawyer - he has no case, and if he has to resort to stealing people's stuff in petty crimes, he probably doesn't even have or know a lawyer...

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Another issue I think is there isn't enough evidence what was in the bad, ie the notebook/whatever.
Also banning Gino wont get Mees his stuff back.
1. He took a bag that wasn't his and there's video/photo evidence, case closed
2. Yes, prosecuting every murderer won't bring back the dead either, but does that mean we should let them all roam the streets...?
 
From someone who used to date a lawyer - he has no case, and if he has to resort to stealing people's stuff in petty crimes, he probably doesn't even have or know a lawyer...


1. He took a bag that wasn't his and there's video/photo evidence, case closed
2. Yes, prosecuting every murderer won't bring back the dead either, but does that mean we should let them all roam the streets...?

My point is you can't tell what's in the bag, sure he took the bag but you can't tell if its the computer or the cards.
Stealing is wrong either way, and I do believe Mees, I'm just stating from the pictures you can't tell WHAT of Mees Stuff they took

And I agree people have gotten banned for things they have done out of the tournament, like that one VGC player, thing is, the Hotel probably complained to TPCI.
 
Yeah but just because you can't tell what's in the bag doesn't make it not stealing. He still rummaged through the luggage and took something, and walked out with it. It's like if I'm at the airport and see a bookbag and take it and the cameras catch me... it doesn't matter if there was $1mm in there or just clothes, it's still theft. Legally, it may matter because I think the sentence/harshness of the crime will depend on the $ amount, but it doesn't make someone innocent.
 
Well obviously he doesn't have a case, and even if he did, I'm unsure if bringing a criminal case that was out of jurisdiction into a civil suit would be considered wise.
 
Well obviously he doesn't have a case, and even if he did, I'm unsure if bringing a criminal case that was out of jurisdiction into a civil suit would be considered wise.

He'd also have to prove damages -- and its unclear what they are in this case. What, is the guy at Crunch Gym going to charge him $5 more per month because he's afraid he might steal something?

This is just Gino being Gino. When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail; when you're a bully...
 
If he feels he has a case and pursues it, he CAN sue Pokegym, disregard what a mod will say, he can. The thing is, he won't see a penny. The thing he will end up doing is opening Pandora's box and incriminate himself. I really hopes he does try something stupid like this.

Homeofmew- Im not understanding your logic. Banning him won't bring Mees his stuff back, that's correct...but it will make him feel better knowing SOMETHING was done. Also, it allows us to not worry about seeing him at tournaments and making the atmosphere stale. We all know if we are to see him at a tourney, he will be the black sheep and we ALL know we wouldn't want to face him...imagine that conversation?

Simply put, TPCi made a decision, a horrible one, but a decision nonetheless. Now it is up to PTO's to deny Gino access to the tournaments(which I think they have the power to do). At the end of the day, we ALL can't be the face of the game, but what we can be is the opposite of Gino and what he is all about. I personally will not hold a grudge against him if he changes his ways and makes amends...do something for the coummunity. Until such time, I do NOT want to see his face at a tournament and want to have a feeling of "This tournament has turned into a joke" and want to leave.
 
It is very disturbing to know that nothing is being done, despite there being photo evidence. I understand that the police can not get involved due to international policies. However, this is setting a standard for what people can get away with. If this is the standard; every Monday at worlds is open game to theft for anyone living outside the country that worlds is held in. People should not have to go to pokemon events thinking "I sure hope my stuff doesn't get stolen." I am afraid for my belongings and the message it sends to people.
 
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