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Arceus is not God of the Pokemon World

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Haha, good points. :D

I was merely trying to show that what holds true in the RBY era doesn't have to be true today. Some people are too hung up with the "truth" we were served nine years ago, and I don't blame the game/anime creators for changing the truth a bit in all these years.


(Still ... I'm sure Professor Rowan doesn't know about Arceus in D/P/Pt. It's secret and hyper rare and elusive. Why would the researchers working on Mew ten years earlier know anything then? :p)
 
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Haha, good points. :D

I was merely trying to show that what holds true in the RBY era doesn't have to be true today. Some people are too hung up with the "truth" we were served nine years ago, and I don't blame the game/anime creators for changing the truth a bit in all these years.


(Still ... I'm sure Professor Rowan doesn't know about Arceus in D/P/Pt. It's secret and hyper rare and elusive. Why would the researchers working on Mew ten years earlier know anything then? :p)
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Yeah, I know what you were saying, and I agree. I just couldn't help myself. :biggrin:

I like Absoltrainer's idea, personally. The Narrator's voice has never changed, and even Ash's voice has changed. He's the freaking MAIN character, and his voice has changed, but the silly Narrator's voice hasn't?!! God like, or what? [/lame point and sarcasm]
 
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Oh god, I can't believe I read this whole thing

C'mon ya'll there are plenty of good books out there, don't obsess about some japanese opium crazed fantasy:lol:
love the game forget about the back story
 
Mew Secret Wonders's Flavor Text: "Because it can use all kinds of moves, many scientists believe MEW to be the ancestor of all Pokemon"

Yeah. The Mew story is still consistently saying Mew is the original pokemon, not Arceus. Or at least, believed to be. Who knows, all of those scientists quite possibly could be wrong~ (Kinda like how the Earth might orbit the sun after all)
 
Well, the Pokemon Co. does not really pay attention to the story AND two different Pokemon have been released at different times. I don't think any of them connect to each other.
 
On to original post.

Acreus and mew can BOTH be "god's" in japan there were multiple god's or "Kami"
therefore everything typed here can be true.

arceus can be "father to all pokemon" as he wouldve created mew. then mew underwent horrible mutations and gave us pokemon like muk.

Dialga/palkia can be space/time

and mewtwo can be a freak of nature made by man.

please note kids. this comes from japan a land were they were beheading people for over 200 years
oh and uhh this is why im not cristain.

Edit: Also in japan gods were MORTAL at one time. not divine.
"da vinci code refrence"
 
I don't know Pokemon have had a lot of different myths and religions during their days...the Japanese Arcues is said to be Original Pokemon and Giritina is the Rebellion Pokemon...it is said that Mew is the Adam of Pokemon that is why he can learn any attack and I guess Mewtwo is his Eve lol...IDK if Arceus is the god of Pokemon but I do know in the Hindu text it says that the universe was in termoil and in the middle of all was an egg and when that egg hatched all was shaped so he wouldn't be the Hebrew god more like the Hindu god cause the only time any Hebrew was in the game was in R/S/E and that was Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza...Behemoth, Leviathan and Ziz who are the Hebrew monsters of land, water and air...Ho-oh is the guardian of the world and Lugia is the guardian of the ocean...I know in real life if you ran into Arceus and through a ball at him he would probably kick Ur butt but it's not real life or the Anime it's only a game and it's the Pokemon Universe where anything can happen...
 
I feel that the Pokemon "Gods" can be likened to the Greek gods, Even the Titans. Look at Zues, he was scared his siblings would kill him and take his throne, they were fallible like us, could be killed, hated, loved, etc. So keep in mind which was brought up in an earlier post, that Japanese, Chinese, Persian Mythologies, even the Norse, are NOT Judaic or Christian Single Diety beliefs, I think of Arceus as the Odin of the Pokemon, or Zeus if you will, Mew would then have to represent Thor, (making MewTwo the Crafty Loki, step brother and god of mischief) and you guys can take it from there. Just don't get so hung up on it, and enjoy the new stuff they come up with.

I hate to invoke the saga, but it's a good example, George Lucas obviously didn't remember what he wrote in the original 3 films, which explains why the Prequels were so convuluted, and forced into connecting to the 1st 3. Same thing here with all the new Legendaries. I just wish they didn't feel they have to keep "1-Upping" themselves, because they haven't really been able to do that. Kyogre, Groudon, Etc, just don't seem to compare with Ubers like Lugia, MewTwo, or even the newer Giratina, (video game wise) so my question is this: Why do they keep making Uber pokies that aren't really that Uber????
 
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God would also not create three beings that could fight Him.
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Most religions have some form of God that created man.

Man then disproved those Gods.

So, God created billions of "beings" that fight him daily.

butterfree67 said:
I think of Arceus as the Odin of the Pokemon, or Zeus if you will, Mew would then have to represent Thor, (making MewTwo the Crafty Loki, step brother and god of mischief) and you guys can take it from there.
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That's a HUUUGE stretch. Almost not even logical, but it serves the purpose of posing an example.
 
If Arceaus were to be the God of Pokemon, then why was it created after everything else?
 
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If Arceaus were to be the God of Pokemon, then why was it created after everything else?
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Actually, Satoshi Tajiri created all 500 pokemon before the games came out!

I guess he had specific reasons for waiting to reveal Arceaus...
 
rokman:Since when is the idea of gods with human traits, basically representations of human ideas, allegories and metaphors supposed to make sense. Have you read the Hindu creation myths??? Talk about not making sense!! LOL

But seriously, it was only an example, and not to be taken seriously, much like this entire discussion. It kind of reminds me of the stuff I would hear in comic stores when I went with my hubby , like "How's stronger; Lobo or superman?" etc. These are just characters in a cartoon created to move a product, the Mythology itself is nonsensical, but we all love it still. I just don't want to see folks getting upset over who came first. it doesn't matter. I think what matters is how good they make the cards for these guys, and how good they are in the video game, that again, is JMO. I hope I don't upset anyone.
 
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Actually, Satoshi Tajiri created all 500 pokemon before the games came out!

I guess he had specific reasons for waiting to reveal Arceaus...
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Wait... WHAT?!

I hate to go off topic, but..

So you're saying he had all of the Pokemon created before the games were even made? I thought they were just making them up as they go along...

Well, other than the ~500 we know of now, is there any clue as to how many more he already has created? Could we use this knowledge to determine the end of Pokemon?!?!


Only Arceus, the God of Pokekon, knows. <---That makes it on topic. :p
 
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trainerjeff said:
all pokemon came from mew. mew is the god of pokemon. arceus may have created everything but mew created all pokemon
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No, Mew contains the genes of all Pokemon. Mew is thought of as the guideline for Pokemon, a template for their genes, if you will.
If Arceus created Pokemon, he would've made the Dragon Trio first, to control Time/Space/Antimatter. Next would be the Lake Trio, to control the Dragon Trio if they ever got out of hand. Then he would have made the Weather Trio, to control weather. Next would be Regigigas, to tow the continents Groudon would've made into place.
After those almost element-god like pokemon, Mew would've been made, to help in determining the genes for future Pokemon.

Arceus is thought of as The Original Creator, to have made everything and have those branches branch even further, for example, Ho-Oh reviving the Beast Trio, and Regigigas creating the Regi Trio.

I used proper noun for The Original Creator because it looks cool.
 
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So you're saying he had all of the Pokemon created before the games were even made? I thought they were just making them up as they go along...
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Yeah, he had all 500 pokemon planned out already and even a few sketch ideas of them (some of which look really funny compared to the finish products) People didn't even believe the rumors when Yellow was released. But the Johto games really shut up the nay sayers.

Nobody knows if they will continue to create new pokemon. I'm sure they will (it's a huge cash cow) but I have a very distinct feeling these pokemon won't feel the same.
 
there is a reason that mew is the ancestor of all pokemon. he contains every gene. if he wasn't the first pokemon then he would be the pokemon that has the genes of only the ones that came after him.

but its futile to debate since no one will ever know
 
Arceos is in fact only the guardian not creator

For all those who believe that Arceos is a god I'm sorry to inform you that your regrettably mistaken. Arceos will be revealed as the true protector of the world but not the universe he is not the creator, he is the Ruler, the one who sees all, ranking 4th of all guardians, he is in charge of keeping balance and doesn't interfere unless apacolypse happens which hasn't yet, in the near future the 3rd and 2nd guardians of the galaxy and universe will be revealed but for now kids Arceos cannot be revealed. Ofcarse the real God can't be caught because he cannot be seen, he will only be shown once but none of the trainers will be able to see the god pokemon, not him or her because he has no form or shape but all form and all shape, the only ones that can see him are the guardians of the tree of life and the guardian of the kingdom of the god pokemon.
 
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