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AT&T Experimenting with Bandwith Cap!

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SOURCE:http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333966,00.asp

A month after Comcast imposed a bandwidth cap on its residential customers, AT&T announced this week that it is experimenting with a similar system that would limit usage to 150 Gbytes per month.

As of November 1, new AT&T customers in Reno, Nevada will be allowed to use between 20GB and 150GB of bandwidth per month depending on their speed tier.

The test is intended "to evaluate a usage-based model that could potentially help address today's trend of explosive bandwidth usage, [and] may be extended to one other market by the end of the year," according to an AT&T statement.

Existing high-speed Internet customers in Reno who use more than 150GB of data per month will automatically be enrolled in the bandwidth trial by year's end, AT&T said.

If trial participants exceed usage limits, they will be notified in writing and will receive a one-month grace period for their first infraction. If they do it again, however, customers will be charged $1 for every GB over their usage amount. AT&T will notify customers 60 days before overage charges appear on their bill.

How do you tell how much bandwidth you're using? AT&T said it will provide its customers with a "bandwidth measuring tool" to determine their usage. The company will also notify customers when they reach 80 percent of their usage amount.

Service will not be terminated for overuse, according to AT&T.

"A small group of customers are using the majority of bandwidth on our network," according to AT&T. "In fact, almost 50 percent of total bandwidth is used by just five percent of customers – customers, for example, who are uploading and downloading the equivalent of more than 40,000 YouTube videos or 40 million e-mails a month. This kind of heavy usage has an impact on all of our customers."

Comcast announced in August that all its residential customers will be subject to a 250GB per month data limit starting October 1. Comcast came under fire last year for cutting off service to customers who consumed a large amount of bandwidth but refusing to provide those customers with information on how much bandwidth they were able to use.

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) also handed down an enforcement action against Comcast in August for what the commission considered to be unreasonable network management.

In April, file-sharing service Vuze also accused AT&T of throttling traffic on its network; a charge AT&T denied.

AT&T has notified the FCC of its bandwidth cap plans, according to filings.
 
Dude, 150 GB is more bW than pretty much anybody will ever use. My three hard drives would be filled in 5 days downloading that amount per day. Unless you're a torrent seed or something like that, this won't affect you...
 
This is probably the ISP's trying to get a handle on all the online gamers. Most players that are 'hardcore' players can probably burn through the 150 - 250 GB rather quickly.

Of course, I am not an online gamer, so I may be completely wrong too.
 
Online games tend to be among the most highly optimized network traffic, since smaller packets help reduce latency -- they fit into the tubes better :lol: No, I'm serious about that -- most IP routers will not forward a packet until it receives the entire packet, so the larger the packet, the longer it gets stalled at each hop as the router waits to reassemble the packet before forwarding it. If your packet has to travel across 20 hops (typical for any Internet connection), each hop might add 5ms to reassemble and forward a 1500-byte packet, but only 2ms to forward a 200-byte packet. Also, larger packets have a greater chance of getting fragmented, which adds even more delay to the reassembly.

Anyway, games generate a LOT of packets (typically 20-30 per second), but for most games the packets are small enough that the total bandwidth usage works out to 3-4KB (24-32Kb) per second.

If you played such a game literally non-stop for a month (30 days), that's still only 10GB of traffic.
 
Well this issue applies to me and my friends.
We have COD4 and Halo 3 online parties sometimes with 3-4 360 running online for around 10 hours straight.
Not only that but some of us are major downloaders. 1TB external drive doesn't help the matter....
 
I work for AT&T, not to mention the internet division of the company, so I have good insight on this. 150GB bandwidth is a lot! Even if you are an online gamer, you would still never hit that level unless you played 20 hours a day, 7 days a week. Good luck playing that much and if you do play that much online gaming, you seriously need to get a life outside of a computer. I am online between my job and at home approximately 16-18 hours a day. Remember it is 150GB a month and they used an example of how much you need to do in 1 month to achieve that kind of bandwidth (40,000 Youtube vid uploads/downloads or 40 million emails). Put that in perspective, 40,000 vids. OMG, that is insane. You all have to remember 1 thing, the more people online, the more power it takes and the more work routers, servers, and switches need to work. There is only so much a network can take before it starts adversely affecting other customers. They are only doing this to stop "datahogs" from bringing down network speeds and quality to other customers/users.

Z
 
Yeah, I just don't like these limits being placed. I think it is a step back from allowing the internet to advance. Just think about how websites look now days compared to a few years ago. So much more interactivity and media has been added, mainly since people have been able to use higher speed internet.

Right now 150 or 250 gigs is generous, but I sure hope they upgrade their limits as internet speeds as and web design evolves.
 
Well I now have AT&T DSL.....
I tried to stop them...
At least we got the Extreme DS.......
(Good news for who so ever wifi I am using at the time.... Random WIFI spot in neighborhood and local coffee shop)
Now I am opening my computer repair/maintenance/upgrade/home networking business....
Wish me luck...
Now those who had no WEP might higher me to set it up! XD
 
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Then why can I print from there printer?
(I should do that one day)
People pay GEEK Squad to do it and they stink at what they do.
Now I am not saying all do.
But most.....
Nerds with a G33Ks book..
 
This is just a method of making more money. AT&T is just lazy and money-grubbing, that's all.

Comcast has been implementing bandwidth limitations for some time now. We have 250GB right now in my household.

why would someone need to hire you to encrypt their network?
Seems pretty simple to me.

Nah dude, it might be simple to us, but people can't even plug in their desktops a lot of times. You have no idea how bad people are with computers. You're young, but remember there are plenty of clueless people out there who would have no idea how to troubleshoot a simple problem.
 
This is just a method of making more money. AT&T is just lazy and money-grubbing, that's all.

Comcast has been implementing bandwidth limitations for some time now. We have 250GB right now in my household.



Nah dude, it might be simple to us, but people can't even plug in their desktops a lot of times. You have no idea how bad people are with computers. You're young, but remember there are plenty of clueless people out there who would have no idea how to troubleshoot a simple problem.

And then that is where I come in.
I am cheaper then Geek Squad!
LOL
My grandpa juts got his first Computer.
He still can not find the on button, but can handle a welder and a truck engine.

Tech is some peoples week spot.

One reason for WEP is because of bandwith limit.
 
well if my isp imposes the bandwith limit, i simply switch isp's. and if every one of them in my area imposes it, i use my neighbors wireless connection. if he shuts it off or something, i use a library. i will not support bandwith limits.
 
The only reason this would ever effect you on a regular basis is if you're a movie/software/music downloading fiend, and if you're downloading that much stuff, you probably deserve to have the RIAA bang down your door anyways.

I'm not talking the odd thing here or there - let's admit, we all do it now and then - I'm talking everything that's ever released. If you only downloaded movies, you would have to download 19 full sized DVDs per month (and since everybody downloads in xVid these days anyways, it would be well over 100) to fill up 150gb. Granted, that would only be downstream, but if you seed something back to a ratio of 1, you're still downloading and sending 9 full DVDs.

Throttling is wrong, yes. I'm in total agreement there. But if you're a personal user (businesses I can totally see this not working for, but surely there would be a different plan for them) and you're using 150gb of transfer a month, you seriously need to review your downloading habits.
 
i easily use over 200gb of bandwith a month. i actually had to test it for a month last year for a computer project, and it was about 375bg. dont critize my download habits.
 
The only reason this would ever effect you on a regular basis is if you're a movie/software/music downloading fiend, and if you're downloading that much stuff, you probably deserve to have the RIAA bang down your door anyways.

I'm not talking the odd thing here or there - let's admit, we all do it now and then - I'm talking everything that's ever released. If you only downloaded movies, you would have to download 19 full sized DVDs per month (and since everybody downloads in xVid these days anyways, it would be well over 100) to fill up 150gb. Granted, that would only be downstream, but if you seed something back to a ratio of 1, you're still downloading and sending 9 full DVDs.

Throttling is wrong, yes. I'm in total agreement there. But if you're a personal user (businesses I can totally see this not working for, but surely there would be a different plan for them) and you're using 150gb of transfer a month, you seriously need to review your downloading habits.

That is exactly what I said on my post. If anyone is utilizing over 150GB/month, month after month, then they are a bandwidth hog and need to have extra fees imposed on them mainly because they are utilizing so much bandwidth that they are taking it from others. I find in extremely hard to believe a residential user can utilize that much bandwidth month after month and not be doing something illegal, like sending thousands of spam emails. That is one thing AT&T is trying to control. THIS IS NOT ABOUT AN ISP TRYING TO MAKE MORE MONEY!!!

Business users with dedicated business lines are different. They have a contract and a dedicated line set up for them that has the bandwidth set up on their line. Some companies actually pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to have dedicated OC-3 lines or bigger. Those utilize terrabytes of transfers.

Z
 
i easily use over 200gb of bandwith a month. i actually had to test it for a month last year for a computer project, and it was about 375bg. dont critize my download habits.

What could you possibly justify 375gb of transfer in a single month for?

Then again, it's probably not that hard to guess, since you have no problem with making signal theft an option. :nonono:
 
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