Best way to get Shaymin?

[Clueless in Seattle]

Some of you may know me as the old noob who's coming back to Pokemon after a hiatus of nearly a year.

On the advice of some of the kind folks here on the Pokegym forums I'm going to start putting together a couple of Scizor/Cherrim decks for my grandson and me.

They tell me that adding a Shaymin card to these decks would greatly enhance their power.

I read that a Shaymin tin will be coming out on March 2nd.

And on the Pokemon site, they say that the Flourish Theme Deck will contain a Shaymin card. But they don't seem to say if the deck has already been released. Has it?

I think I may have also read about a Shaymin Lvl X card. Is there such a card? If so, is that the same card that's in either the new tin or in the Flourish Theme Deck?

If I remember correctly, a tin contains the one highly prized card that shows through the window in the lid of the tin, along with a few booster packs. So, other than the window card, it's a crap shoot as far as what other cards you'll get. And the retail price is about $15, right?

On the other hand, with a theme deck, you know in advance exactly which cards you'll get, and the price is a little lower, somewhere in the range of about $12 isn't it?

So, to me, (who has gotten more and more conservative in his old age), it seems like the better deal would be the theme deck.

I'd be grateful for your opinions on the best way for me to get a couple of Shaymin cards for my new Scizor/Cherrim decks.

 

[brick11]

shaymin lv X doesnt come in a theme deck only a regular shaymin therefore the tin is better and anyway if you want the best shaymin which doesn't come in a tin then you should probably buy or trade for it

 

[deogg]

If it's a Platinum theme deck, then the deck is already out there. But, you won't get the Lv X.

With the tin, sure, you get the Lv X, but not the Shaymin basic to get the Lv X out on the table.

If you want the fast route to both, you would need to buy the theme deck AND the tin.

Plus, brick11 is 100% right. The good Lv X is in the packs.

 

[mine is cooler]

hi there

Honestly the easiest way to get a shaymin x and non x forms is in the trading forum.
Trade away cards you already have instead of spending Xx amount on packs, tins, and decks.

Hope I helped a little

 

[Clueless in Seattle]

Thanks for the clarifications and suggestions, folks!

My cards are all really old and I can't imagine anyone being interested in trading for them. But who knows? I could be wrong. I guess I should tackle the tedious project of making a list of all my cards and posting it to see if I get any nibbles. But I have trouble typing for very long at the computer due to chronic health problems, so this is not a project I'm looking forward to. :frown:

In the meantime, I just looked up Shaymin in the Researching Tower, and was surprised to find five different versions of th card (I mistakenly thought it was a new card, duh!) :redface:

• Shaymin (PT #15)
• Shaymin (PT #38)
• Shaymin (PT #14)
• Shaymin LvX (PT #126)
• Shaymin LvX (PT #127)

So if I go shopping for Shaymins, which versions of the Basic and Lvl X do you think would work best in a Scizor/Cherrim deck?

 

[brick11]

well i say it would be best to have either a 1-1 #15-#126 or #127 whichever has the body that gives +40 hp OR ive found helpful in my shaymin beautifly deck is 2-2 #15-#126 and #127

 

[Blaziken 1111]

Thanks for the clarifications and suggestions, folks!

My cards are all really old and I can't imagine anyone being interested in trading for them. But who knows? I could be wrong. I guess I should tackle the tedious project of making a list of all my cards and posting it to see if I get any nibbles. But I have trouble typing for very long at the computer due to chronic health problems, so this is not a project I'm looking forward to. :frown:

In the meantime, I just looked up Shaymin in the Researching Tower, and was surprised to find five different versions of th card (I mistakenly thought it was a new card, duh!) :redface:

• Shaymin (PT #15)
• Shaymin (PT #38)
• Shaymin (PT #14)
• Shaymin LvX (PT #126)
• Shaymin LvX (PT #127)

So if I go shopping for Shaymins, which versions of the Basic and Lvl X do you think would work best in a Scizor/Cherrim deck?

Well it is a new card. Just all 5 versions came in the one set. I'm not sure about the numbers but you want the land shaymin that gives the extra HP. I would also play 1 of each shaymin though because after a grass dies the sky one pretty much one shots most of the cards in competitive play so it could be an effective killer but I would play at least 1 of the land ones. I'm not so sure about the normal versions. I think there is a sky form that attaches energy and I can definetly say don't use that one due to everything only needing 2 energy. I would use number 14 or 38

 

[baby mario]

None of the Basic Shaymins are bad. I like #14 best, but the others have 10 more HP and can also be useful.

With the LV X's though, Land Forme (#126) is so much better than Sky Forme (#127). A permanent +40 HP boost to Grass Pokemon (140 HP Scizor using Honeycomb Defender while it still has 80 HP!) is more useful than a one-off attack boost for Shaymin when you get KO'd.

 

[lordantwarrior]

The Lv.X you want is Platinum number 126, because it give an extra 40HP to all Grass Pokemon. The best regular Shaymin would be Platinum number 14 in my opinion, although Platinum number 38 is not too bad.

If you're worried that you won't have much to trade, then I would suggest just searching Ebay for 3 regular Shaymins (The non Lv.X) and one Shaymin Lv.X (Make sure it has the "Thankfulness" Pokebody). It might cost a bit for the Lv.X, but it is neither available in the deck or the new upcoming tin (Which will be the other Shaymin Lv.X) and buying it on ebay will be much easier than spending loads of money on packs to find one.

Hope my post helped!

 

[Clueless in Seattle]

Hope my post helped!

It sure did! As did all the other replies to my query. Many thanks, all of you who have been so generous with your time and expertise, I've learned a lot from you!

I'm afraid the prices for the Lv.X cards (around $30) are way beyond my limited means. Even the Basic Shaymin cards (around $5) would be a stretch for me.

After all, the point of the game is to have fun, right? And anyway, who would want to play a game that you could only win if you were rich enough to buy the rarest cards? That doesn't sound like the Spirit of the Game to me.

So we'll just have fun with our decks, such as they are, and add a few affordable cards from time to time. We've got lots of old cards that we can build decks from for unlimited play, and every once in a while a kindhearted soul gives us some new cards to add to our collections. :smile:

 

[Andrew99]

I hear you. You can build a lot of fun decks in unlimited format, and that's how most leagues run anyway, so you don't have to worry too much about your old cards. A player with more resources defintely has an edge in competitive play against a player with less. When you see some juniors playing with theme decks and a few traded cards against kids whose parents really support their hobby running 4 Roseanne's Research, 4 Rare Candies, 4 Bebe's Search, 2 Claydols, and level X cards, the difference is stark. Its part of the game now, I guess.

 

[Clueless in Seattle]

I hear you. You can build a lot of fun decks in unlimited format, and that's how most leagues run anyway, so you don't have to worry too much about your old cards. A player with more resources defintely has an edge in competitive play against a player with less. When you see some juniors playing with theme decks and a few traded cards against kids whose parents really support their hobby running 4 Roseanne's Research, 4 Rare Candies, 4 Bebe's Search, 2 Claydols, and level X cards, the difference is stark. Its part of the game now, I guess.

Well, for now, neither my grandson nor I have any interest in playing in tournaments. For us the game is still just a way for us to have fun together. And I hope it stays that way for a long time :smile:

It's a sad commentary on the game, though, that it has come to reflect the distressing income gap disparity of our society-at-large, and that rich parents can, in effect, "buy" their little players a winning deck.

It would be like having, in the game of chess, special exorbitantly high priced chess pieces, armed with high tech weaponry, that could shoot across the board and kill off opposing chess pieces at a distance regardless of their positions on the board. I think the social beauty of chess is that a kid from the ghetto can go to the park and play against a kid from Park Avenue, and both are playing with an identical set of pieces. But that ignores the fact that the kid from Park Avenue might have the advantage of a paid chess lessons, or even a paid chess tutor, to say nothing of the advantage of a quiet, secure home environment where he can practice with his dad (or his butler :winkso there probably is no way to effectively eliminate the advantages of being born into wealth.

Still, maybe we need to explore ways to level the Pokemon playing field and make it more egalitarian. For now, though, I guess it would soon become pretty obvious who the kids are at the Pokemon League whose parents have bought them decks filled to the brim with lots of power cards, and we can just politely decline to play against them.

 

[baby mario]

It would be like having, in the game of chess, special exorbitantly high priced chess pieces, armed with high tech weaponry, that could shoot across the board and kill off opposing chess pieces at a distance regardless of their positions on the board.

I would definitely play chess if it was like that.

The thing is, there is no one company that has the exclusive rights to market chess pieces, and depends on bringing out more new and exciting ones to make money every year. I understand what you mean about rich players having an advantage, but Pokemon is better than most TCGs when it comes to money.

 

[Politoed666]

They tell me that adding a Shaymin card to these decks would greatly enhance their power.

Um. This isn't really what the thread is about, but I figure I'll say this anyway. I fail to see how adding a Shaymin would help advance Scizor/Cherrim. It's just another card that doesn't add much and takes away the speed of the deck, which is S/C's only advantage.

 

[Clueless in Seattle]

I would definitely play chess if it was like that.

:lol:Thanks for my first chuckle of the day!​

Pokemon is better than most TCGs when it comes to money.

That's good to hear :thumb:

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Um. This isn't really what the thread is about, but I figure I'll say this anyway. I fail to see how adding a Shaymin would help advance Scizor/Cherrim. It's just another card that doesn't add much and takes away the speed of the deck, which is S/C's only advantage.

I'm pleased to hear that, considering that I can't afford the steep prices that Shaymin cards are fetching on eBay and at the online sellers.

As for how adding Shaymin would improve the Scizor/Cherrim deck, I guess we'd have to ask darkartisan, as I think he was the one who suggested my adding a Shaymin to the deck in the first place:

http://www.pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92908&highlight=update

As for me, I haven't a clue