Breloom

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by Tails, Aug 7, 2003.

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  1. Tails

    Tails New Member

    Battle Blast Breloom, card 16/109 in EX R&S...

    Does anyone know if its Battle Blast attack is correct? Breloom's a Grass, but the damage gets increased according to the amount of Fighting Energy on it...

    If I knew where my copy of Sapphire was, I could check type, but...

    This just seems odd... Anyone know if it's a misprint?
     
  2. mukman

    mukman New Member

    actually, it's true. Breloom is grass/fighting in the gameboy. His attack on the card is in fact supposed to be pumped by fighting energy.
     
  3. Baboon

    Baboon New Member

    Well, I can't tell. I went to look at the Japanese version of Breloom, and the Japanese doesn't have ANY symbol on it, so they prolly wrote out Fighting or whatever it may be in text.
    Japanese Breloom scan

    They may have messed up the symbol, like what happened to Blaine's Charizard and Crystal Nidoking, but as for now, I'd say it's right, but have no backing other than a guess. ;)

    [EDIT: I went back and looked at the scan again, and YES, there IS a small Fighting symbol in there. Go click on my link and look closely. It's just not in its little brown bubble like we're used to seeing it. So, YES, the Fighting is correct on the English version.]
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2003
  4. Tails

    Tails New Member

    Oh. OK then. Thanks a bundle. Thought it looked wrong, but, I guess not...

    :: Pulls Breloom out of his deck because it's tri-color already and Fighting isn't one of those colors ::

    I just noticed something, Baboon... The symbol IS on the card. 4th from left. Apparently, they don't put it in the colored circle... how odd...
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2003
  5. Noah121

    Noah121 Active Member

    It's important to consider that if you see an unusual Energy type on a card's attack, it is either (a) an error, or more likely, (b) a reflection of what second type that Pokémon is in the Game Boy games. This also explains why Pokémon like Omanyte, Kabuto, and Chinchou had more than one color of card.
     
  6. Carrington388

    Carrington388 New Member

    If anyone from Nintendo's reading this, take note...

    And we've yet to see Water versions of Slowking, Sneasel, and Smoochum. And Fighting versions of the Quagsire line as well as Nidoqueen, Heracross, Steelix, and Corsola. On top of Grass versions of the Tentacruel and Gengar lines as well as Scizor and Qwilfish. (It's too early in the R/S card series for the R/S Pokémon to be added to these lists.)
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2003
  7. Scizor Master CLR

    Scizor Master CLR New Member

    Actually, the japanese card has the fighting symbol in the text. Remember that the ADV sets in Japan don't use the colored energy symbols anymore, just the symbol itself, a fist in fighting's case. It's the fourth symbol in the text. ;)
     
  8. BPM

    BPM New Member

    Slowpoke - I'm almost positive there's a Japanese-only promo with it as a Water-type card.

    As for the others... they just seem to prefer one type for most Pokémon. Meh.
     
  9. The Fish King

    The Fish King New Member

    I know that Gengar is a Poison type, but a Grass Gengar just wouldn't appeal to me. Too wierd.
     
  10. PokePop

    PokePop Administrator

    There's a water Slowpoke in Aquapolis.
     
  11. The Dark Llama

    The Dark Llama New Member

    Breloom is Gr***/Fighting, Battle Blast is written correctly. Also, in the Japanese card (mostly prior to ADV) they don't use the game symbol, they use the kanji for the type.
     
  12. Tails

    Tails New Member

    60. Rainbow NRG DOES provide all, but only one at a time. You could possibly switch it after you attack, but then you'd have an illegal attack, if I'm thinking straight.

    If you had two, though...
     
  13. yoshi1001

    yoshi1001 New Member

    Not quite Tails. Take a look at rainbow energy (courtesy Pokeschool):

    Rainbow energy counts as all types of energy at all times, but provides one unit of energy at a time. You don't have to choose anything. So a rainbow energy can conceivibly pay the grass portion of the attack's cost, and add damage as a fighting energy.
     
  14. Porygon3

    Porygon3 New Member

    what about if you use conversion on an engery...
    or what if your ditto...
     
  15. Carrington388

    Carrington388 New Member

    Conversion, no, as conversion only happens before the attack. Ditto can do it, though, seeing as how its Power allows all Energy to provide all types.

    And, The Dark Llama, no need to censor the word Grass.
     
  16. BJJ763

    BJJ763 Trading Mod Supervisor Staff Member Trader Feedback Mod

    Porygon 2's Energy Conversion would add to the damage total if it is used to convert a Basic energy card into a F energy. Breloom only need F energy to do the extra damage.
     
  17. PokePop

    PokePop Administrator

    I was going to correct you about Ditto, but then I remembered the new Ditto...

    So, for Fossil Ditto, you would have to choose Grass or Fighting. An energy card would only count for one color.

    For e-Ditto, it would be like Rainbow energy and would count as both colors at the same time.

    By the way, Dark Llama did not censor Grass. Our auto-censor was getting a little over-zealous.
     
  18. Tails

    Tails New Member

    OHHHH... ok... Thanks, Yosh. I must have misinterpreted it... thought it only provided one energy of one chosen color...
     
  19. TheDeuce

    TheDeuce New Member

    You sure about that? o_O

    True that you don't have to choose which energy you want the rainbow to be, but it can only provide 1 energy at a time. So, if you use the attack, the rainbow energy would have to be counted as just grass for the duration of the attack.

    That's just the way I see it. ;x
     
  20. yoshi1001

    yoshi1001 New Member

    I'm positive. It provides one unit of energy that qualifies as all types of energy at all times.
     

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