Kayle
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No.
Stop fearmongering, pleeeease. -_-
Also, not having top cut at BRs along with the deeper CP distribution = awesome. I have no gripes whatsoever. A quick splash of 5 rounds of Pokemon is exactly enough for me right now.
BRs - No top cut - how do we feel now?
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No.
Stop fearmongering, pleeeease. -_-
Also, not having top cut at BRs along with the deeper CP distribution = awesome. I have no gripes whatsoever. A quick splash of 5 rounds of Pokemon is exactly enough for me right now.
I got news for you. You have to get lucky to win any tournament and always have.
No top cut was expected to shorten the events so that it would wrap up at a reasonable time, not to reduce attendance. This goal was certainly achieved.
As far as not being important, BRs with a BFL of 6 can potentially account for 22.5% of the target, so they are a big deal in aggregate. This is about the same as last year, so the importance of the events has been unchanged, roughly.
Wait what division were you? I got 6th place at winterpark florida also. Im in seniors
Diaz
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the second part, but wouldn't the increased attendance put even more of a time constraint on venues?
Considering that cities are worth more points than BRs then if one of them were to drop top cuts then I'd rather them drop them from BRs than cities. More points means that there is more on the line, so I'm sure a lot more players would appreciate top cuts at city championships, myself included.
Kayle
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Probably yes. No disagreement there.
The second part of my statement, rephrased: because they are offering more CP at City Championships, and because of the greater accomplishment and importance that they represent, it's likely that they will remain significant enough to warrant a top cut. Since the minimum cut size used to large enough to actually noticeably change the results of Swiss (where BRs often ended up being rematches from Swiss in the finals anyway), it's been more respected and a 'bigger deal'.
...I dunno where I'm going with it anymore. Hopefully it made some sense.
Aren't TOs compensated more for Cities, which makes it worth holding a tournament of this size? BRs were not this large until last year.
I was the guy in the Espeon hat hahaha. Masters division.
JandPDS
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I am not fear mongering. I am just saying of no top cut is proving to be very successful at Battle Roads then why would it not be expanded latter It seems that Pokemon is getting too popular now and venues are not able to hold enough space for all of the players that want to play. We had a BR in the Seattle Area that had 72 players for a Battle Road and others even more. The venues that hold BR's are for the most part the same that hold Cities and face the same Challenges. It is the States and regionals facilities that can truely accomodate enough players for a top cut. From all I have heard the no top Cut battle Roads were all huge successes and I have no reason to to believe that. I am not wishing for Cities to loose top cuts but the growth of the game my be forcing that issue latter. I can see the day where Top Cuts will only be held at top level events like States and regionals. I thought getting rid of top cuts would hurt attendance at Battle Roads but I was clearly mistaken. So I do not thing there being gone is such a bad thing after all. I am not afraid to admit when I was wrong and I was wrong about Top Cuts elimination being bad for the game. You cant argue so with the attendance numbers that were experianced this past weekend.
I will say that not a Top cut is definalty better then the alternative of sudden death where you loose and you are done playing for the day like the Last Chance Qualifiers is run. I hope Pokememon never has to adopt that as Yu-gi-oh has.
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SlimeyGrimey
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I think no top cut is working fine. 1st gets 15 points and 4th gets 10, that's not much difference in points. Why spend 2-3 hours just to juggle the standings a little? At the battle roads I went to last weekend there were five players at 5-1. Last year the unlucky player to get 5th would have walked away with nothing while the other players get a chance to play top cut. This year he still gets 6 CP.
Also I think it was nice being done around 5pm instead of having to play until 8 or 9 for a measly 4 packs and 15cp. The prizes for battle roads are small and don't warrant a long, grueling day.
Also I think it was nice being done around 5pm instead of having to play until 8 or 9 for a measly 4 packs and 15cp. The prizes for battle roads are small and don't warrant a long, grueling day.
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JohnnyBlaze
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Here in Watervilet, NY we had our largest attendance yet for an event 58 players for Battle Roads. Was the larger turnout because of no Top Cut? Only time will tell. But it appears this game is the biggest I have seen in years and that is a good thing!!
JandPDS
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Yes I will have to agree the new Pokemon Season has started out with a bang. I am very glad both of our events are doubled up at the same time as annother battle road in the area, otherwise I do not know if my venues could hold everyone and I hate having to turn players away,
Your larger attendance was due to the large roll CPs play in invites....I promise you no top cut did not encourage people to come to your events.
K2theAblaM
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I played in this BR. After 7 rounds of swiss, you're pretty much done with pokemon for the day considering the differences in 1st and 4th place is only 5 points (what equates to about half a point in the old system).
In addition, With the new point system in play I'm 100% okay with having no top cuts at BRs, especially since you can even earn points when you place outside of top 4, which is very nice. Last year, if you bubbled at 5th, you would be walking away with nothing. You still need the necessary records to make top cut LAST year, so removing top cut makes zero difference on the type of record you need to have to earn points at a BR. If anything, there's more incentive now than ever to stay in with an x-2 record at BRs, since there's still a good chance you can earn points for your performance.
JandPDS
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Originally Posted by TheRolesWePlay
@Psychup
We get it you're upset. Now please just let the topic end. We have the information, and the powers that be have apologized for it taking so long, so stop beating the proverbial dead horse.
I will remind everyone that that reasoning came from someone quoting the Pokemon website's blurb on BRs in general.
I don't personally see them removing top cut from Cities however since there is more on the line as opposed to a 5 CP difference, 2 packs, and a gimmicky card.
Be honest, Before the announcement came about this seasons Battle roads did you ever imagine for a second that they would remove top cuts from a Premiere Event?
Originally Posted by TheRolesWePlay
@Psychup
We get it you're upset. Now please just let the topic end. We have the information, and the powers that be have apologized for it taking so long, so stop beating the proverbial dead horse.
I will remind everyone that that reasoning came from someone quoting the Pokemon website's blurb on BRs in general.
I don't personally see them removing top cut from Cities however since there is more on the line as opposed to a 5 CP difference, 2 packs, and a gimmicky card.
Be honest, Before the announcement came about this seasons Battle roads did you ever imagine for a second that they would remove top cuts from a Premiere Event?
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