Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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New players and casual players often do this. I don't know, it's not that big of a deal to me. Experienced players never do this, so there's no way this is going to disturb me in any important matches where there's a lot on stake.

As a judge, though, I guess I would tell the opponent of a player who's bothered by this that he needs to keep his talking at a minimum when it's not his own turn. If it makes you unable to concentrate, and stresses you out, I understand the problem.
 
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Don't play golf, then, if sudden noises annoy you. Actually, I LOVE it when my opponent starts yapping. Gives me a little more insight as to how my opponent might handle various situations. If I hear after a BTS "thanks", then I know to either (a) hide behind something or (b) get my attackers up faster. I treat it a little bit like poker, and my opponents reactions are always open to interpretation.

That, and I LOVE talking up a storm at the tables. Anybody who played in the 08 Prof Cup knows this very well ^_^.
 
From my experiance as both a judge and a player, I've found that people usualy make comments on the opponent's actions if that player is taking too long to do something but don't want to call over a judge. Pretty much a "If you aren't going to do any actions for the next two minutes then I'll just comment on something out of boredom". Though this obviously isn't the reason that everyone does it, I've seen this reason is the most common.
 
One of the funnier gestures I've witnessed is when my Pokemon gets KO'd, a friend of mine waves "bye-bye."

Sarcasm is least understood when spoken (or gestured) by a stranger.
 
OK, you all are either missing, or stepping around the reason for the banter in the first place by some players.

Expressive banter is done by players to:

1. Knock you off of your game. If you are listening to them, then you are not going to follow your own play set, and may start to actually listen to them.

2. Try to get information. How valuable would it be if you knew they played Dusknoir? Ambipom? Toxicroak Promo? Mr. Mime? Uxie X? If a player can get that info for free out of an opponent, then they are ready for more situations that may have caught them off guard.

3. To play your game for you, not always correctly. Usually seen in the younger divisions, where an experienced player, especially in trouble, will try to distract a newer player, by telling them what they should do, or are going to do. This we try to crack down on, but there are players it happens to.

4. Make the game fun and enjoyable. Yes, some players actually want to talk and have fun through the game, getting to know their opponent.

Vince
 
I can admit I talk a lot during games. I usually say something everything my opponent plays a card. Most of the time it is me saying "okay", to just say that I got what they are doing. There are only a few times I won't talking or ask my opponent to not talk during a game. If I see it is a tense situation for them or they ask me not to talk whil they make a choice or if I have a tough choice to make I will ask them to please give me a second to think about what I want to do. Other than that I have no issues about talking during a game.

I will also say that the farther we get into the tournament the less likely I am to talk as I get nervous and there is some pressure, which might be while I do better in swiss (as I am a little bit more relaxed) then in Top Cut.

I haven't seen too many scenarios in this post that would warrant a judge being called, but Vince and Bullados nailed it on the head and I am not sure I disagree with any of their points.

Drew
 
Like TheDarkTwins, I often say "okay" after my opponent plays a card, but I don't do it to distract the opponent. When I'm in a bad position during my turn, I also describe the situation to myself, but I wouldn't do something like that during my opponent's turn.

I try to be friendly during a game though, and chat with my opponents. If they ask me to stop or it's obvious they don't want to be talked to, I stop. Simple as that. But I think conversing with new people over games is a very enjoyable aspect of the game, as is meeting new friends through it.

The only time I asked an opponent to quieten down was during a crucial nats game that would determine if I made Top Cut or not. I ended up losing the game anyway, but it helped me concentrate.
 
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I would probably think that the person who's saying that stuff obviously doesn't have very good social skills and is pretty rude, but I don't think I'd make too much of a fuss about it.
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If you're going to play Pokemon, you need to accept that the playerbase, socially, is less than optimal. I don't mean to generalize Pokemon players as a whole, but let's face it, there are going to be more people of the OP's description here than any old random place.

I say this a bit defensively because I could certainly imagine myself being the person who says "Thanks" to the Broken Time-Space. But the point isn't to belittle the other player, nor is it to really inform them that they made a mistake of any kind. It's really just to try and help ME relax! And when I bear that in mind I become a lot more tolerant of other people's likeminded behavior.

Silent matches are too tense for me, and I find my mind blanks under those circumstances. So I try to speak a little to help lighten the mood and help me focus.
 
What about the opponent that puts damage counters on before you attack. They should make them keep the damage and then you still get to attack for more damage. That gets to me cause then I forget to do other things like cosmic power or attach energy.
 
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What about the opponent that puts damage counters on before you attack. They should make them keep the damage and then you still get to attack for more damage. That gets to me cause then I forget to do other things like cosmic power or attach energy.
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That's a classic example of the "Rushing" penalty. From the guidelines:

Penalty Guidelines - 7.4.2. Rushing said:
- Rushing through your opponent’s attack step by putting damage on your Pokémon before your opponent announces which attack is being used, or the total damage being done to the Defending Pokémon.
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David's Confused Pokedad said:
What about the opponent that puts damage counters on before you attack. They should make them keep the damage and then you still get to attack for more damage. That gets to me cause then I forget to do other things like cosmic power or attach energy.
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It also irritates me when they gather a few dice and hold them in their hand gesturing, "are you done?" but that doesn't bother me NEAR as much as talking/bantering.
 
The thing that bothers me the most is when you do the only play that makes sense at the time and your opponent is like mhhm I was expecting you would do that... Ummm yeah what else would I do o_O
 
When playing board games, one of my favorite "irritating" lines I like to use is, "Very interesting," pretending my opponent did something I didn't anticipate.

Like M45 stated earlier in this topic, sometimes players use "table talk" to redirect their opponents away from their main strategy.

Also, I've learned to totally disregard comments like, "I'm new to this game. I started playing last month when my little kid made me this deck." Yeah, right!
 
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Also, I've learned to totally disregard comments like, "I'm new to this game. I started playing last month when my little kid made me this deck." Yeah, right!
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Or when players say they have a terrible start, then they have a T2 gardevoir, gardvoir, gallade and claydol. These comments can be annoying, but you have to ignore them. I personaly engage in banter like this whith my opponent to 1) calm myself down and 2) to lower the level competition.
I'm not trying to distract them, I am only to make it feel like a game not a deathmatch.
 
I once talked my opponent through every move of the game. Granted, it was because

A. It was very obvious what he was going to do

B. He's a friend

C. I had a horrible start next to his amazing start, so I was pretty much just counting down to my doom. :D

I knew I was going to lose, but at least it made the match somewhat entertaining. Seriously people, you need to relax a little and have some fun. IT IS A GAME.
 
The "thanks, I needed that!"s are tantamount to unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't know if it's worth getting a judge involved if it happens only once, but it's still a painfully obnoxious thing to deal with.

Oh and DarthPika, "talked my opponent through" situations are ridiculously obnoxious as well, so thanks for mentioning that.
 
WORST GAME EVER:

It was during City Championships, and my opponent would not shut up! I was playing my Charizard G deck, and he kept messing me up by saying "Let me guess, heat wave?" I would then say "Yep, heat wave" instead of saying Malevolent Fire. I'd try to take it back, but he kept insisting that I had used heat wave (since Malevolent Fire would have OHKO'd his pokemon.) I finally just give up arguing and blast him next turn FTW, but it was still really annoying!

What REALLY annoys me is when my opponent comes to the match with a HUGE amount of self-confidence. They start the match by making a big deal about how great their starting hand is, which you can't tell if they are bluffing our if you are doomed. Then, each time they take a prize, they either start humming a marching tune (true story, it was really creepy. I think it was the "Mickey Mouse" theme song), or they just make sounds to disrupt my concentration during my turn.
 
I will admit, I like to do this, NOT to throw ANYONE off their game, mislead them, trick them, or haggle them for information. It simply gives me something amusing to do, similar to how lots of players, myself included, mess up their sleeves by shuffling their hand around and such. I also have no problem with chatting about random topics during the game.

I feel as if some people are so competitive that they neglect the purpose of the game - to have fun. The game is tough at times, and sometimes you can't find a way out of a situation. But relax people! Pokémon cards ARE NOT serious business, they're a game. And this isn't poker either. I can walk out of a tournament with a negative record and a smile on my face. How many of you can do that? Come on, lighten up, and don't take everything so seriously!
 
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