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Does anyone watch The Avatar the Last Air bender

its nickelodeon, its not supposed to be sophisticated or serious, its a kids network, not a person over 15 years old TV channel. Young people like goofy things.

I dont like Avatar because it is always the same like first 3 epeisodes so it gets extremely boring. Its not the best Nick show ever. I think its Spongebob Squarepants( the fastest Nick show that had a movie) and All That- this was the best show from 1996- 2000. I am not talking about the All that with the current cast( which is terrible), i am talking about the orignal cast with Kel mitchell, SNL's Keenan Thompson, Amanda Bynes, and Danny Tamberelli. That was the show to watch for all ages a couple years ago.

I think the quality of Nick shows are going down. come on" My life as a teenage robot"? "My dad the rockstar"? theses are just garbage ideas. the only newly released good show is catscratch.
 
Who could forget the Keanen and Kel show. Every time i have orange soda i remember that show and the movie.

Yeah the new cast for all that is HORRIBLE the old one was WAY better it had Lorie Beth(u forgot her poliwag)

and Iinvader zim is the best show in the world or it used to be. on a nickeloden channel in digitel cable the still show it. It is on like channel 344and up.
 
Psycho_Lugia_X said:
I would hate to see it come to a screeching halt by not renewing their golden shows: Avatar and Catscratch. Zim's cancellation was a big mistake, but they can preclude another grave error if they just keep the quality shows running.

And stop with the Spongebob.
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Spongebob is the top rated show on the network for a reason: everything else isn't worth watching. The new episodes are bad, but the reruns are the reason Nickelodeon goes.

Avatar is a good show, but it's taking forever to make new episodes. Only 2-3 of the episodes can be watched numerous times without loosing their appeal: probably Jet, Winter Solstice II, and the one where Zhao and Zuko duel. Actually, quite a few of them are good enough to watch multiple times, but those ones just stick out.

Catscratch is AWFUL, and it will be cancelled within the next few seasons, but Nickelodeon is going to wring it dry before tossing it aside as they don't have much left. A cat in love with an 8-year old human girl who drinks tea and loves unicorns? Gag me. =/

Fairly Oddparents is too fast-paced, now. The animation quality is much higher than its debut, but the style has lost a lot of what it once had, and all the episodes seem too mushed together. Episodes like "Father Time" and "Foul Balled" and "The Boy Who Would Be Queen" crack me up every time I see 'em, though.

Jimmy Neutron's old episodes are decent but the new ones (including the movies) are horrible, and it's being cancelled after they finish this season to make room for Catscratch, which is a mistake, because CS will have lost its already small following within the next year. The only reason people are still watching JN is because - well, I really don't know why. Season 1 and the former half of Season 2 were masterpieces.

Danny Phantom and Teenage Robot suck. Nothing more to be said.

Also, I would like to add that Zim was not all it was cracked up to be. =/ Some episodes were funnier than anything Nickelodeon has ever put on before, but then the rest were crap. I hated their gross depiction of humans - it wasn't "dark" or "mysterious". It was disgusting, and they could have made it a lot more politically humorous by pointing out their social flaws as a race rather than physical "comedy" (snot pouring from noses, wrinkled skin to the nth degree, etc).

Nickelodeon is living off reruns right now, but it won't be long before they find that it won't work forever, and hopefully they'll come to their senses soon enough.
 
Hey, it worked for Raymond, it'll work for Nick. I haven't had the chance to see but one episode, the one with the female warriors and the Unagi, I thought it was definitely one of the better tries at making American Anime. Much better than, say, teen titans(yech)
 
Everything SuperWooper said is fair. Utterly valid. But I disagree with a couple of things.

Catscratch is one of the best cartoons they have put out recently. The acting is of incredible rate, for a kid's cartoon. It isn't too over the top, it is just the right amount of goofy, but still watchable. And not just merely watchable, but laugh out loud funny. US cartoons usually shoot for stupid physical slapstick, highly energetic stuff with little to sink your teeth into, but Catscratch, and Zim too, added depth to that.

Catscratch does the above with style. It doesn't come off as brainless wackiness, but calculated comedy. I think the difference is that it isn't blazing fast, in-your-face stuff like Oddparents. Sometimes after watching Oddparents, I have to turn down the volume beacuse of all the overdone hyperactivity of the show. CS tells amusing stories with a great VO cast. It's a charming show too, featuring characters with more to them than those of Oddparents, Neutron, and definitely more than those of Spongemoron. I don't think I can convince anyone who doesn't understand this stuff already, so I'll leave it at that.

As for Zim, by "dark" I meant it was willing to go beyond just the average people smacking into things for the funny. Take the "Dark Harvest" episode. That episode was about Zim getting everyone's organs consumed! That doesn't sound particularly funny, as it does weird, but Zim does it in a very funny way. He becomes this puffy, organ-overloaded mess and expects to be considered human! The show was willing to deal with stuff like that and make it funny. The appeal is in its ability to turn the weird into funny.

Avatar surprises me. I would think that since the show is very plot driven, that episodes would become unviewable after a couple of times since there is nothing new to discover, but I find myself wrong whenever I think that. My first episode was the one where they go to that Earth town with old Boomy and the carts in the roller-coaster-like ducts. I've seen that episode several times and it is still entertaining. I can understand how some would probably lose interest in reruns of this show, but for me only a couple of episodes are uninteresting by now.

And Human Robot is just dumb. I completely agree.

As for Danny Phantom, I have to apply effort to watch that show, and it surprises me sometimes, but it is a generally uninteresting show. I think it's Danny's friends that put me off that show.
 
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yeah i forgot Keenan and Kel I liked that. And Lori beth that's the other girl! I saw her in Dodge Ball but forgot her name
 
Psycho_Lugia_X said:
US cartoons usually shoot for stupid physical slapstick, highly energetic stuff with little to sink your teeth into, but Catscratch, and Zim too, added depth to that.
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Spongebob, Jimmy Neutron and Fairly Oddparents all had less slapstick than you're making them out to have, I think. All three of those shows, ESPECIALLY in their earlier years, contained humor that even adults would find laughable. The episode "Band Geeks" in Spongebob, "The Boy Who Would be Queen" in FOP, and "When Pants Attack" in JN feature a LOT of verbal humor, just as one example from each show. Your example with Zim as the mass of organs in Dark Harvest is the physical comedy you just described! Not to mention gross. ;p Nevertheless, Zim (as well as even Catscratch, I must admit after seeing the last episode) have their moments. That doesn't mean I value them above the former three, though.

Back on topic, the last few new Avatars amazed me, especially Jong Jong the Deserter. That was the coolest episode ever. Here's 6 reasons why:

1) Jong Jong is well drawn. They give him a lot of character for a one-time deal, and he goes out with a bang, leaving conspiracy theorists like myself with a juicy piece of...well...conspiracy. Did Jong Jong actually run off into the woods, or did he burn himself to ash with that attack because he knew that because of the Avatar's transformation, he would defeat the Fire Nation? Perhaps it was because he was torn apart, like he said to Katara before. He wanted to free himself "from this burning curse."
2) Aang learns that advice from his elders is the best advice he can get. The cool part was, that moral came in a very pleasing package: he burns Katara and reflects on it, recognizes this flaw in one of his enemies later and capitalizes on it; I believe it's a turning point in the series, and not in an overdone, too-emotional-for-Nick package. He really had a life-changing experience, I think, in that episode. Maybe now he realizes that being the Avatar is much more than he had ever realized. Props!
3) Best battle scene so far, IMO: Aang vs. Zhao. That fourth fireblast he gives where Aang does the handstand whirlwind thing to send the flames in either direction was UNBELIEVABLE! The end of the battle was cliche, with the ships being burnt by Zhao's own attacks, but it definitely works in the episode.
4) Jong Jong comes face-to-face with Roku. That's an interesting little twist. Aang can assume Roku's shape outside of Roku's temple and the Spirit World - or did Aang take Jong Jong to the spirit world? Or was it Roku who was communicating with Jong Jong in the Spirit World through Aang?
5) Katara gets healing abilities. Or rather, she discovers she has them. This was a great way to finish the episode, although the segway into the humor bit from Sokka was kinda lame. ;/ It made everything turn out to work in Aang's favor in that episode: Zhao loses, Katara's healed, etc etc etc.
6) It was funny. "Ahoy, I'm Admiral Zhao!" "I dunno why, but I thought you'd be better than Zuko." "You guys need to stay out of sight." *Appa ducks behind a shrub one-twentieth of his size and tries to hide.* Uncharacteristically funny, actually.

Hopefully the series will just keep getting better. :thumb:
 
Adam Garcia said:
Iinvader zim is the best show in the world or it used to be. on a nickeloden channel in digitel cable the still show it. It is on like channel 344and up.
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Oh gawd! Zim is probably the most disgusting show i've ever seen since Ren & Stimpy on Nick!
I hate Zim way too disgusting for my taste.

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Yeah the new cast for all that is HORRIBLE the old one was WAY better it had Lorie Beth(u forgot her poliwag)
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Ok All That is really funny when it wants to be. Especially "I'm Detective Dan!" also Coffe & Sugar is also hilarious. *couple takes guest puts him under thing shooting out coffee, then gets a can of sugar and dumps it into mouth* LOL :lol:
 
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Catscratch does the above with style. It doesn't come off as brainless wackiness, but calculated comedy
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You think a 9 year old is going to care whether a show comes off as calculated comedy or not? No. ;/ Geeze stop overanalyzing everything.
 
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Nickelodeon only gets 2 kinds of shows;

1. Garbage that they'll shove down your thraot until you throw a brick at your TV (I.E. Catscratch, Teenage Robot)

2. Stuff with potential that they cancel after 2 seasons (Angry Beavers, Avatar (most likely))

What's keeping Nickelodeon alive currently?

Fairly Oddparents, Danny Phantom, and Spongebob reruns. Nickelodeon only has what? 7 shows now? The first 3 I mentioned, that new Rugrats show (Grown Up, or w/e), Catscratch, Avatar, and Jimmy Neutron. Cartoon Network is killing them on the kids audience with Billy & Mandy (or w/e), Ed, Edd, & Eddy, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, and Camp Lazlo , all of which have newer episodes much more frequently than the Nickelodeon shows.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and I thought this as soon as I saw this topic in here, Avatar: The Last Airbender is not an anime, it's US made, it just has a little of an anime-ish look, I guess.
 
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I thought Avatar might not be "real" anime...

Guess that settles it. I am utterly impressed by that show's effort and production value. Beats the poop out of all those other imitation animes, like Totally Spies or Marvin Mystery or anything like that. Goes to show that it takes more than big eyes and bad lip sync to be considered anime.

Well, that's just me of course.
 
Well, it typically takes 9 months to get a cartoon from idea to TV screen...and that's not taking into account the high quality of the show.

I recently learned that the voice of Sokka, Jack DeSena is one of the kids on All That! How ironic...a show we love and a show we loathe, so closely intertwined.

But that guy--all the cast are great...

...still have to watch the finale, which I taped.
 
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