Dragon Prerelease Attendance #`s
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)v(ajin_ipg21 said:
I never said they did-I just said they're in the same metro area. Same smog, same traffic
...besides, the people you really need to take it up with the US Census Bureau. "Eh. Interesting HYPOTHESIS. It's definitily not the be all end all BUT like Meganium mentioned, IF there were better STATS as to WHERE from the participants drive, hike, hitchhike, fly, etc THAT may offer some more information."
That's your job to figure out. All I'm saying is a doubling in population does not equal a doubling in participation.
"Most people in the STATISTICS calculated here DON'T care don't KNOW that pokemon is still around."
The question is, how do we fix that?
As for the Aalsmeer prerelease, according to yoshi1k1's stats it would be 54 players for a group of 1 million inhabitants, which would IMO be quite representative of the Randstad Metropolitan area in which it was held, even though some of us travelled a bit further to get there, it should be a normal distance when compared to any US prerelease.
This weekend did however, not have such a turnout as the Leiden and 's Hertogenbosch had 13 and 10 players respectively (of which more than 50% was the fanatic player base - 8 out of 10 in the 's Hertogenbosch case - who came because all the other base players were going)
I'm guessing Rainbowgym will post her stats for last weekend later this week.
This weekend did however, not have such a turnout as the Leiden and 's Hertogenbosch had 13 and 10 players respectively (of which more than 50% was the fanatic player base - 8 out of 10 in the 's Hertogenbosch case - who came because all the other base players were going)
I'm guessing Rainbowgym will post her stats for last weekend later this week.
NoPoke
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Tahna... its more than a million remember these were the European pre-releases so should n't we divide by 125million or more ? Or maybe they should be the international pre-releases so we divide by 6 billion??? :-D
Yoshi,High Attendance figures are obviously good but it does not follow that low figures are bad. Its not even safe to just rank the results by attendance. In the UK we managed 45 players at the first event and three 8 player side events. So we shifted 69 players worth of promos.. We were allowed to run an additional mini-pre-releases and ended up shifting 99 players worth of product. One of the mini-events only picked up 8 players.. but that was 100% of the local player base. So is that good or bad?
Yoshi,High Attendance figures are obviously good but it does not follow that low figures are bad. Its not even safe to just rank the results by attendance. In the UK we managed 45 players at the first event and three 8 player side events. So we shifted 69 players worth of promos.. We were allowed to run an additional mini-pre-releases and ended up shifting 99 players worth of product. One of the mini-events only picked up 8 players.. but that was 100% of the local player base. So is that good or bad?
My apologies for taking an abosolutely HORRIBLE day out on the rest of you yesterday. I'm sorry; it won't happen again.
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yoshi1001 said:
I think that the question should be, "how will Nintendo fix it."
We can do our part by welcoming new and returning players. Really making them feel welcome. Helping them get into the game and understand the rules, the decks, and even the strategies.
I have email Nintendo suggesting they start a pro-tour for Pokemon like WOTC has for Magic the Gathering. This would generate some more interest in Pokemon and help to set it apart from Yu-Gi-Oh and other similar games. (I've even seen MTG on ESPN.)
I've also contacted a few stores in and around my area suggesting to the owners that Pokemon is making a comeback and that they should get in now by hosting sanctioned tournaments.
Perhaps, if you agree, you might also email Nintendo and contact any stores in your area that are not already on board?
Having played both I believe that Pokemon is a lot more fun than MTG. But I think it will be hard to get more MTG players to give Pokemon a try, (or another try). It shouldn't be that hard to get the Yu-Gi-Oh players. That game is very poor compared to Pokemon.
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Broken Lizard
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Heh...
I was at both Madison and Manitowoc this time around. In both cases, 8 of the players were from my local league. That's 8 of 17 for Madison and 8 of 34 for Manitowoc.
My league players are pretty fanatical (as am I). They were willing to drive 1-1/2 hours to Madison and 2 hours to Manitowoc.
With one exception in each case, all 8 players went to both events. Many more would have come were it not for conflicts with work and sports.
For Sandstorm, I went to Chicago, but only because there was 'no game in town' for WI. I LOVE not paying those Illannoy tolls on the interstates! Also, both WI tourneys charged $15 as opposed to the Chicago $20. Still, I'd probably go to a 3rd prerelease in Chicago if it didn't conflict with the others. That's how crazy I am...
...and coming out with 54 packs total for $30 invested sure pays for the gas!
I was at both Madison and Manitowoc this time around. In both cases, 8 of the players were from my local league. That's 8 of 17 for Madison and 8 of 34 for Manitowoc.
My league players are pretty fanatical (as am I). They were willing to drive 1-1/2 hours to Madison and 2 hours to Manitowoc.
With one exception in each case, all 8 players went to both events. Many more would have come were it not for conflicts with work and sports.
For Sandstorm, I went to Chicago, but only because there was 'no game in town' for WI. I LOVE not paying those Illannoy tolls on the interstates! Also, both WI tourneys charged $15 as opposed to the Chicago $20. Still, I'd probably go to a 3rd prerelease in Chicago if it didn't conflict with the others. That's how crazy I am...
...and coming out with 54 packs total for $30 invested sure pays for the gas!
psychup2034
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The Pokemon Center New York Prerelease EX Dragons tourney had 73 people, 3 of those people got their 6 packs and left.
I'm not 100% positive about these numbers, but...
10- ==> 12
11-14 ==> 25
15+ ==> 33
That was the tourney on the 16th.
However, Pokemon Center had their own little EX Dragon Prerelease Party the next Saturday (22nd) and there were 8 tournaments held once every 50 mintues from 11-5. 8 people were in each of the 6 tourneys. It was single elimination with 15 minutes per round, 5 minute breaks between tourneys. There was also another beginner's tourney at the other side of PCNY, so I guess there were about 120 people there on the 22nd, although the tourneys were not sanctionized.
I'm not 100% positive about these numbers, but...
10- ==> 12
11-14 ==> 25
15+ ==> 33
That was the tourney on the 16th.
However, Pokemon Center had their own little EX Dragon Prerelease Party the next Saturday (22nd) and there were 8 tournaments held once every 50 mintues from 11-5. 8 people were in each of the 6 tourneys. It was single elimination with 15 minutes per round, 5 minute breaks between tourneys. There was also another beginner's tourney at the other side of PCNY, so I guess there were about 120 people there on the 22nd, although the tourneys were not sanctionized.
Nopoke, let's just assume that it was a Netherlands only prerelease, which would change the per capita number of people to say approximately
1/288000. This would constitute quite a bad score, which would put The Netherlands at the bottom of the list. I know there were only three countries in which prereleases were held (or did I miss something in Italy) and if we would view by that, we would definitely rank last.
Bear in mind that we should try to take into account the number of people in any given state, so we could have a clearer view of making comparisons.
Yoshi1001, would you be so kind as to point us in the direction in which we should look?
1/288000. This would constitute quite a bad score, which would put The Netherlands at the bottom of the list. I know there were only three countries in which prereleases were held (or did I miss something in Italy) and if we would view by that, we would definitely rank last.
Bear in mind that we should try to take into account the number of people in any given state, so we could have a clearer view of making comparisons.
Yoshi1001, would you be so kind as to point us in the direction in which we should look?
ukpokemonpro
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I am getting slightly confused at the attempts to prove something with meaningless stats...
None of the European pre-releases were advertised on the Pokemon-TCG website, we had 2 weeks in the UK to find a venue advertise and run the event, and we had a great turn out given all that.
But how the advertising that was done across various Pokemon Boards and on the Pokemon TCG site would have affected the UK is unquantifiable and therefore you cannot compare the UK, the European or any other pre-releases against each other on any kind of Statistical analysis without taking so many factors into account that the Stats become worthless.
Adding in factors like Demographics, Financial Modifiers, Social Economic Groupings, Location of Venue compared to transportation links, and so it can go on.
We had fun, the event paid for itself, everyone went away happy.... result.
Now can we forget the meaningless stats please!
None of the European pre-releases were advertised on the Pokemon-TCG website, we had 2 weeks in the UK to find a venue advertise and run the event, and we had a great turn out given all that.
But how the advertising that was done across various Pokemon Boards and on the Pokemon TCG site would have affected the UK is unquantifiable and therefore you cannot compare the UK, the European or any other pre-releases against each other on any kind of Statistical analysis without taking so many factors into account that the Stats become worthless.
Adding in factors like Demographics, Financial Modifiers, Social Economic Groupings, Location of Venue compared to transportation links, and so it can go on.
We had fun, the event paid for itself, everyone went away happy.... result.
Now can we forget the meaningless stats please!
Pokeplayer
New Member
Hello all...
Well it been a week since the Seattle Dragon Ex Prerelease..... I just got back
from Grandma's house for Thanksgiving yesterday...
Here is the breakdown...
Total 69 participants that played
15 & Older 31
11- 14 24
10 & Under 14
See ya around..........
Well it been a week since the Seattle Dragon Ex Prerelease..... I just got back
from Grandma's house for Thanksgiving yesterday...
Here is the breakdown...
Total 69 participants that played
15 & Older 31
11- 14 24
10 & Under 14
See ya around..........