At a glance, it looks to me like Reshiram and Zekrom are the only dragon-types from Gens I-V that did not receive a printing of a dragon-type card in the Black & White era of the TCG. Think they might get one in the XY era? For completion's sake, I really hope so. It typically bugs me when a Pokemon has never gotten a card printing of one of their types, with two exceptions - I'm okay with secondary flying types not receiving a colorless card, and I'm okay with dual Grass/Poison types not receiving a psychic card. That's about it though.
Dragon type Reshiram/Zekrom cards?
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signofzeta
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If they did something like that, I'm guessing the attacks for Zekrom requires darkness energy, and attacks for Reshiram requires, uh, um, metal energy. Gray is close to white, right?
rivershock
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Draco Plate Arceus didn't get one either. (Hey, it IS the only TCG Type that lacks an Arceus, excluding Fairy.) Nor did Origin Forme Giratina.
Pokemon not getting a card of their other Type usually doesn't bother me. There is virtually always a reason. Usually one of their types is completely dominant in their design and abilities. Sneasel and Weavile have few, if any, Ice traits, for instance, and have thus never had an Ice-Type card (with one exception for Weavile, which can become Darkness anyway, and was weird for other reasons, too). Sometimes it's because a certain type is underrepresented (Steelix has never had a Fighting-type card, representing its Ground typing, because Metal is a small type. Escavalier has never had a card depicting its Bug typing, either, and is also Metal.) Occasionally because the evolution line differs in Type and it would make it difficult to use the cards effectively if they use those Types (Surskit has only ever had 1 Water card for this reason, and it was a promo rather than being released alongside a Masquerain.) And, more rarely, to differentiate it between similar cards. (Nidoqueen being the big one, having only ever had 1 Fighting card.)
I do agree Dragon Reshiram/Zekrom probably should have happened, though.
Pokemon not getting a card of their other Type usually doesn't bother me. There is virtually always a reason. Usually one of their types is completely dominant in their design and abilities. Sneasel and Weavile have few, if any, Ice traits, for instance, and have thus never had an Ice-Type card (with one exception for Weavile, which can become Darkness anyway, and was weird for other reasons, too). Sometimes it's because a certain type is underrepresented (Steelix has never had a Fighting-type card, representing its Ground typing, because Metal is a small type. Escavalier has never had a card depicting its Bug typing, either, and is also Metal.) Occasionally because the evolution line differs in Type and it would make it difficult to use the cards effectively if they use those Types (Surskit has only ever had 1 Water card for this reason, and it was a promo rather than being released alongside a Masquerain.) And, more rarely, to differentiate it between similar cards. (Nidoqueen being the big one, having only ever had 1 Fighting card.)
I do agree Dragon Reshiram/Zekrom probably should have happened, though.
rivershock
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I could see Psychic for Reshiram, but not Zekrom. I agree with signofzeta that Zekrom'd probably be Darkness. If not, probably Fighting IMO. (MAYBE Metal just because metal and electricity kinda go together.) Reshiram... I'd say Grass, just because that combination hasn't been done and Grass is very rare among Dragons. Psychic does make sense, though.
signofzeta
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They could go next destinies theme deck style and make Reshiram use Water and Zekrom use Darkness hahahahaha.
Or they could go the Japanese Reshiram EX and Zekrom EX battle strength deck route and make Zekrom use grass instead hahahaha.
How about maybe they could go original six energy types. We know that Kyurem also uses psychic. This means the other two could use grass or fighting.
Who is to say that they couldn't use fairy as well?
What I am waiting for is one dragon type card, heck even a legendary trio, where they use 3 different energy types to activate one super powerful attack. We have 9 energy types now, and there are usually three in a trio. It totally fits.
I'm also sure there is a card out there, but isn't there a card where the attack becomes more powerful the number of basic energy types that is attached to the card?
For dragon types, I sort of wished that the costs were cheaper than non dragon type costs. In Magic, a 3 drop momo colored card would have the same abilities and power and toughness as a 2 drop multicolored card. Something that would cost 3 energy in a non-dragon type pokemon should cost 2 for the same attack.
Something that requires 3 different energy for an attack could be an attack that would normally require 5 energies if it weren't a dragon type card.
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Ho-oh EX .
You mean Neo Lugia?
signofzeta
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Like that, except have a legendary trio, that is, all three legendary dragon types use three energy to power up the attacks. The trio must not have an attack that uses an energy that one of the others uses. Since there are three in a trio, and we now have nine energy types, it would totally fit.
So let's take the Reshiram, Kyurem, and Zekrom trio.
We already have a Kyurem that uses both water and psychic, so let's keep those two in there.
Reshiram of course uses fire, and Zekrom of course uses lightining.
For Reshiram and Zekrom, let us add an energy cost that is the color of that pokemon, that is Zekrom get darkness, and as for Reshiram, we can't really add colorless, because colorless doesn't have its own energy card. Kyurem is kind of gray though, so we should make Kyurem Water Psychic Metal.
Reshiram is sort of "girly" looking, so add fairy as a cost, thus making it Fire Fairy.
This leaves Grass and Fighting.
What I am thinking is Reshiram is Fire Fighting Fairy
Zekrom is Grass Lightning Darkness
Kyurem is Water Psychic Metal
Each would have an ability that does something better if one of the other two are in your bench, and does something so overpowered if all three are in your side of the field, that is one as the active, and two of them on your bench.
They could even do some super powerful attack, but the drawback is that each of the three needs to have their ultimate attack powered up, thus making you have to run a deck that uses all 9 energy types. If you don't have the other two's ultimate attack powered up, Zekrom's ultimate attack is just like any other attack. So let's say it does uh, 100 damage? If all 3 were powered up, maybe it could do 200 damage and recycles all energy back from the discard pile to the field, or something overpowered like that?
So what I would like to see are a trio of dragon types, hopefully a legendary dragon trio, where one card becomes better if the other two are on your side of the field, and each of them has an attack cost that requires 3 different energy types, where no two have the same energy type as a cost, and in order to maximize the power of the attack, all 9 energy types are required. I'm not saying that each individual card has to suck. The attack that requires 3 energy types has to be a good attack, but will become overpowered if the other 2 in the trio are on your bench, and becomes even more powerful if their respective attacks are powered up with energy.
Doesn't anyone here feel good if they completely wipe the opponent's side of the field by pulling off an attack that is super hard to set up?
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signofzeta
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Sort of like that, but imagine if each one of those pokemon were separate cards, and each of the separate cards had a similar cost, that is, 3 different energy types to power up the attack. Each one of the trio does not have an energy type cost that the other ones have, thus making it so that all 9 energy types are utilized if you used all 3 pokemon.
If used alone, the attack does moderate amount of damage for something that costs 3 different energy. The attack would have an ability where it becomes more powerful if you have the other two pokemon on your bench, and becomes even more powerful if their attacks can be used, that is, energy is attached to them in order to use the attack, even though they were benched.
I am unsure if there is an actual pokemon who has an attack that checks wheter a benched pokemon has an attack that is "activated", by "activated", I mean that the energy is already attached and that attack can be used right away if it became the active pokemon.
So what I am saying is, it would be cool if there was a trio of legendary pokemon, each as separate cards, that has an attack that has 3 modes. The weakest mode is if you just used it as is. The stronger mode is when you have the other two of the trio on your bench. The strongest is when the other two of the trio has their attack activated. So to activate the strongest attack, which has a different effect depending on which of the legendary trio you use, you must have all 3 of the pokemon in play on your side of the field, and you must power it with 9 different energy types.
We have the Plasma Freeze Reshiram and Zekrom that checks if the other is on the bench, but I haven't heard of a card that checks for the other pokemon, as well as checks if a certain attack is powered up with the correct energy.
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