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Dragon's Strike (Grachomp/Altaria/Haxorus)

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Carvanha

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Pokemon - 18
3 Gible (87)
1 Gabite (89)
3 Garchomp (90)
2 Swablu (104)
2 Altaria
3 Axew (DV 12)
1 Fraxure (NV)
3 Haxorus (PLB)

Itmes - 18
1 Computer Search
2 Escape Rope (-> Catchers once I get them)
4 Level Ball
4 Rare Candy
2 Switch
2 Tool Scrapper
3 Ultra Ball

Supporters - 12
2 Colress
2 Ghetsis
3 N
2 Professor Juniper
3 Skyla

Energy - 12
4 Blend WLFM
4 :fighting:
4 :metal:

Haxorus - 140 HP (Dragon)
Stage 2 - Evolves From Fraxure
:metal: Dragonaxe 40x
Does 40 damage times the number of :metal: Energy attached to this Pokémon.
:fighting::metal: Strike of the Champion
If the Defending Pokémon is a Team Plasma Pokémon, it is Knocked Out. (If the Defending Pokémon is not a Team Plasma Pokémon, this attack does nothing.)
Weakness - (Dragon)
Resistance - None
Retreat Cost - :colorless::colorless:

DISCLAIMER: I don't know what the heck I'm doing.

Basically, with this deck, you use Haxorus to instantly take out ANY plasma pokemon for :fighting::metal:, thus eliminating quite a few pokemon that are used in the metagame nowadays, and Garchomp can take out non-Plasma Pokemon easily with its :fighting: attack, making it easy to set up. If you can get 2+ :metal: on Haxorus as well, you can take on non Plasma Pokemon with it, but that's riskier.

I want to add Hypnotoxic Laser "Engine" in, as a Garchomp + Altaria + Laser is a 2HKO on any EX, and can more or less substitute for an altaria for Haxorus, while it has 2 :metal: on it. I also need to make the supporter lineup...better. It's a mess right now.

And yes, I do plan on trying to get at least 2-3 Catchers ASAP, as I know its useful, especially for dragging up the Plasma Pokemon I want to KO with Haxorus.
 
If you don't mind, would you like to explain why I should take out the Garchomp line, and what Trainers and EXs I should add in in favor of it?
 
I have been tossing around the idea of using Haxorus as well, since I too can see potential here. However, after looking at this base list I think a few things could be changed (and I will probably test it when the set is released a month from now).

-All Gible/bite/Chomps (-7)

-All Swablu/Altaria(-4)

-2 Ropes

-2 Ghetsis

-15

Now, lets shore up your Pokemon-

+1/1 Axew/Haxorus (+2)
+ 3 Landorus EX (+3)
+ 1 Keldeo (+1)
+6 Total

Landorus is your prefered starter, to get the damage going while Hax is being set up. It has synergy with your energy lines and with Haxorus' requirements as well. Ill explain more about the damage aspect below.

Now for trainers-
+2 Juniper
+3 Catcher
+2 Float Stone

This would, IMO allow multiple options to get Landorus out of the active to go postal with Hax. And Juniper is just flat out better draw than Ghetsis. Your deck would be consistent enough now I think to pump out some decent damage alone. But, just for fun, lets take out a couple other things and add in some damage modifiers from PB.

-1 Rare Candy
-1 Level Ball (You have enough Axew to almost guarantee that you will start with one)
-1 Tool Scrapper

+3 Silver Bangle

Since you will most likely be facing mostly EXs, and with the rotation seemingly getting rid of Goth/Accelgor, its a pretty safe bet to play this over Lasers. Especially with the advent of Genesect/Virizion, whether its truly viable or not, you probably will see alot of it for a good while, along with Keldeo/Blastoise and of course TDK. With 1 Metal and a Bangle, Hax does 70, survive a hit, and next turn KO with 2 Metal+Bangle. Also, Landorus is there to soften up targets for the Hax/Bangle combo. By turn 3, you should theoretically have 2 target EXs you can wipe out with just Landorus, Haxorus, 1 Fighting/Blend, 2 Metal/Blend attachments, and a Bangle. Granted, this deck will struggle against the fast and hard hitting TDK- but I cant really see a way of avoiding that- but Haxorus, if you can get it going by turn 2, and for go the Landorus attachment once you see TDK pop up, can get the jump on Kyurem if you go first, knocking it out with a F+M.

I hope this helps a bit, and a month down the line once I have tested my own deck ill probably post here to share. For now though, this is only theorymon.
 
NoDice - Nice theorymon.

Managing 2 stage 2 lines can be difficult and setup is also quite slow. And of the 2 lines, Haxorus will probably yield more benefits, long term. I also agree that Garchomp is quite highly at risk to KOs while you setup and the Altaria lines are also easily 1HKO targets.

As one who played Landorus EX throughout most of this season, I found it to be a great starting attacker. Even though we will most likely lose Crushing Hammer (which I used against those pesky PF Kyurem), Landorus EX is still formidable. As a tech, I'd suggest you also consider including 1-2 Cobalion EX which fits the deck's energy profile and provides protection to Landorus EX.
 
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some mewtwo exs would be good. the reason you should take out the garchomp line is that managing a stage 2 like garchomp is difficult do to Gibles low hp.
 
shiny mewtwo said:
some mewtwo exs would be good. the reason you should take out the garchomp line is that managing a stage 2 like garchomp is difficult do to Gibles low hp.
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What would the point of Mewtwo be exactly? It gets OHKO'd by Deoxys and cant OHKO back without 3 energy, assuming Deoxys even has any on it. PLUS, the list would have to be modified to include DCE, which is worthless to Haxorus, which is what the deck is based around- as well as my suggested Landorus additions.
 
the pont of mewtwo exs is that its a strong early game card doing 40 on the first turn with its exball attak if you have double colerless energy, plus it just gets stroinger every turn

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the pont of mewtwo exs is that its a strong early game card doing 40 on the first turn with its ex ball attak if you have double colerless energy, plus it just gets stroinger every turn
 
I mean, I know I said I don't know what I'm going, but if I'm implying I don't currently have the resources to get Catchers of all things, HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO GET LANDORUS!?

...Plus, that basically changes the entire deck. I know, it isn't the greatest (It doesn't have to be since I primarily play casually at a league), but something that's a huge pet peeve of mine is when people basically say to change the entire deck. The deck isn't Entirely based on Hax, It's dual Dragons and Altaria. And yes, I appreciate you explaining why it's not a great idea, but I prefer to optimize a deck to the best it can be with the original idea - Not optimizing it so much that it's an entirely new deck, basically.

Either way, I gave up on the idea before any of you even started posting. It doesn't quite interest me anymore, and especially with the changes you guys suggested it doesn't seem like it'd be very good on my highly strained wallet.
 
Carvanha said:
I mean, I know I said I don't know what I'm going, but if I'm implying I don't currently have the resources to get Catchers of all things, HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO GET LANDORUS!?

...Plus, that basically changes the entire deck. I know, it isn't the greatest (It doesn't have to be since I primarily play casually at a league), but something that's a huge pet peeve of mine is when people basically say to change the entire deck. The deck isn't Entirely based on Hax, It's dual Dragons and Altaria. And yes, I appreciate you explaining why it's not a great idea, but I prefer to optimize a deck to the best it can be with the original idea - Not optimizing it so much that it's an entirely new deck, basically.

Either way, I gave up on the idea before any of you even started posting. It doesn't quite interest me anymore, and especially with the changes you guys suggested it doesn't seem like it'd be very good on my highly strained wallet.
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Sorry about that. It would greatly help knowing what you have for a card pool in order to further help you build the deck. Do you have anything that I suggested besides catchers and Landorus? If Landorus is too expensive, a lesser alternative would be DRX Stunfisk- it only does 20 spread, but its a much cheaper alternative, and you can keep the Ropes in place of the Catchers as well. I mainly collect and just play on PTCGO- so sometimes I forget that its harder to obtain multiple copies of cards to play IRL... again I apologize.

I know you would like to run both Dragon lines, but as Tuxedo mentioned- its very very hard to do. Its even more difficult than running a Goth/Accelgor deck since you have to balance search/Poke Comm with vital trainers and energy- while keeping the large evolving lines consistent. If you want to keep the basic Pokemon in, Ill try to help you if youre still at all interested in the idea.
 
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I'm liking the following line.

4/1/4 Haxorus
3/3 Zoroark(Foul Play)
2 Tornadous EX PF

I run max hammers and candy along with disruption cards like Hooligans and Ghetis. I also run plasma energy and Colres Machine. Basically Haxorous beats Plasma deck. Zoroark deals with Blastoise and Darkrai varients. Tornadous when maxed out with Plasma KO's anything.
 
This deck actually has ONE major flaw. The deck has trouble juggling Stage 2 Pokemon as there are 2 of them. However, the Stage 2 Pokemon are not the concern. Its the lack of search power that this deck has which really ties the problem together. The Gabite in your deck, you'll need more copies of that as THAT has the search power the deck is lacking. So, take out the 2 Ghetsis and at least 1 Rare Candy to add in 2 of the Gabite with Dragon Call and 1 Fraxure to help speed up this deck tenfold. (Ghetsis will not nail you any cards a good majority of the time and you won't need 4 Rare Candy as you don't want to skip Gabite.) Hope this helps. :thumb:
 
If you do keep the Garchomp line in, I would suggest upping the Gabite line. The Dragon Call is too good to pass up on. You get 2 gable's on the field T1, evolve one, dragon call for the 2nd, dragon call again for whatever you need next. The next turn, you are nearly guaranteed one dragon call, with a good chance of 2.
 
Carvanha said:
...Either way, I gave up on the idea before any of you even started posting. It doesn't quite interest me anymore...
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This is still holding true, so I have no clue why you guys are STILL suggesting things for it when I don't even care anymore. I guess if you guys want to discuss the possibilities, whatever, but since I really don't care about it myself anymore, you may as well just make your own topic with your "ideal" list in it.
 
Carvanha said:
This is still holding true, so I have no clue why you guys are STILL suggesting things for it when I don't even care anymore. I guess if you guys want to discuss the possibilities, whatever, but since I really don't care about it myself anymore, you may as well just make your own topic with your "ideal" list in it.
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Instead of replying to your own thread in such a negative sense, why not just ask the mods to close the thread? That saves you the hassle off others actually trying to help you out when you clearly do NOT want the help.


...just sayin
 
Just a heads up for people without Pokemon Catcher.
There is one in the Volcanrona Theme Deck in Plasma Blast.

Also this deck is very similar to a deck I currently play.
Though with the Dragon Vault Haxorus line.

Never had any trouble setting up that.
Since I do have 3 of the Gabite with Dragon Call.
 
Carvanha said:
This is still holding true, so I have no clue why you guys are STILL suggesting things for it when I don't even care anymore. I guess if you guys want to discuss the possibilities, whatever, but since I really don't care about it myself anymore, you may as well just make your own topic with your "ideal" list in it.
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well, carvanaha already gave up the idea so good bye!
 
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