dusknoir and computer search

[Bigbowlr1037]

Just posted on pokebeach. Dusknoir and the new $40 computer search.

http://pokebeach.com/2012/10/dusknoir-and-computer-search-from-boundaries-crossed

 

[Vinsanity]

Hey, if they are stupid enough to pay that much for a 1 of...

 

[Bigbowlr1037]

Since you cant use the old one you need the new one.

 

[Shen]

We can't use the old one?

 

[solo59486]

And I just looked on TnT to see if they had any older computer searches... They were all out of stocked anyways.

---------- Post added 10/17/2012 at 08:58 PM ----------

We can't use the old one?

Here is what Pokepop has to say to that: http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2339283#post2339283

 

[FirestormXVI]

Here is what Pokepop has to say to that: http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2339283#post2339283

Well that's incredibly frustrating considering the Ace Spec designation only has instructions for deck-building, not play.

 

[GodBlessAmerica]

Here is what Pokepop has to say to that: http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2339283#post2339283

Oh my god! Veteran Players getting screwed again? How unexpected

 

[psychup2034]

Oh my god! Veteran Players getting screwed again? How unexpected

I don't see how it's just veteran players getting screwed. Newer players are getting screwed too.

 

[Mystery Thing]

Oh my god! Veteran Players getting screwed again? How unexpected

How do you figure? Even if they were, you would have needed an Ace Spec one outside of the deck.

 

[King Piplup]

Yeah…

Even if they had been legal, they would've needed a reference. Therefore no gain whatsoever by anyone from it being legal.

Just a loss for those who went out and bought them for some reason…

 

[psychup2034]

How do you figure? Even if they were, you would have needed an Ace Spec one outside of the deck.

Or they could errata it like Potion, Pluspower, or Rare Candy...

The point is that there were steps that could've been taken to save players money. Those steps were not taken; hence, some players feel screwed. Personally, I'm indifferent. Another $40-$50 card has little impact on me.

 

[GodBlessAmerica]

How do you figure? Even if they were, you would have needed an Ace Spec one outside of the deck.

I'm pretty sure you could get a print out from the card-dex like back when we were allowed to play foreign cards. Instead, everyone has to shell out $40 for another piece of cardboard

 

[Bigbowlr1037]

How do you figure? Even if they were, you would have needed an Ace Spec one outside of the deck.

Couldnt a text reference be used as opposed to the actual card?

 

[psychup2034]

Couldnt a text reference be used as opposed to the actual card?

Print-out references are no longer permitted as of a couple years ago.

 

[Mystery Thing]

Print-out references are no longer permitted as of a couple years ago.

Yeah, they nixed the card-dex allowance when they got rid of foreign cards.

 

[Otaku]

So... does this mean that the older versions of Computer Search still function as "normal" Items in Unlimited?

I was looking forward to what this would do to current decks if suddenly players could only run a single Computer Search.

 

[psychup2034]

So... does this mean that the older versions of Computer Search still function as "normal" Items in Unlimited?

I was looking forward to what this would do to current decks if suddenly players could only run a single Computer Search.

The "most recent printing" rule for Trainer cards should cover Computer Search. There is nothing that indicates otherwise so far.

 

[bullados]

Except that this ruling effectively makes Base Set Computer Search the fifth card in the history of this game to be BANNED OUTRIGHT. It now joins such cards as NG Sneasel, NG Slowking, Ancient Mew, and Birthday Pikachu. And there is absolutely no reason for it to be banned. There is no new text on the new Computer Search that affects gameplay in any way, shape, or form. All it affects is deck construction rules. And players should know these rules before going to tournaments. To me, this is no different from Rare Candy, Potion, or Energy Retrieval. I do not understand this ruling in the slightest.

 

[TheDarkTwins]

I think both players and judges should realize what Computer Search is, and realize that if you have one in the deck, you can't have any of the other three that are currently the same type of trainer (ace spec). I think this ruling is more for Juniors and Seniors more than Masters. There is a bigger chance it would confuse the younger players, but not the older players. I mean it should get checked out with a simple deck check, but still, an unfortunate ruling.

Drew

 

[Tash]

Except that this ruling effectively makes Base Set Computer Search the fifth card in the history of this game to be BANNED OUTRIGHT. It now joins such cards as NG Sneasel, NG Slowking, Ancient Mew, and Birthday Pikachu. And there is absolutely no reason for it to be banned. There is no new text on the new Computer Search that affects gameplay in any way, shape, or form. All it affects is deck construction rules. And players should know these rules before going to tournaments. To me, this is no different from Rare Candy, Potion, or Energy Retrieval. I do not understand this ruling in the slightest.

It's not banned, it's just being treated as a different card than modern Computer Search for the sake of modified. Thus, the situation is closer to any other rotated card than Sneasel.