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Eeveelutions/Roserade

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Qwachansey

Qwachansey

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Iight so I have this so far:

Pokemon - 23

4 Eevee (MD)
3 Leafeon (UD)
1 Leafeon LV. X (MD)

1 Umbreon (MD)
1 Umbreon (UD)

1 Espeon (MD)

2 Roselia (UD)
2 Roserade (UD)

2 Crobat G (PT)

3 Uxie (LA)
1 Uxie LV, X (LA)

1 Azelf (LA)

1 Shaymin (UN)



Helpers - 25

3 Collector
2 Communication
3 Bebe's Search
2 Energy Exchange Unit
4 Super Scoop Up
3 Broken Time - Space
2 Expert Belt
2 Warp Point
1 Luxury Ball
2 Poke - Turn
1 Palmer's Contribution



Energy - 12

4 Psychic
4 Grass
4 Rainbow


TOTAL - 60

Leafeon combos with Roserade to apply special conditions then dishes out damage from 30 - 130 with Expert Belt and poison. Leafeon LV. X can also help with Roserade. Umbreon and Espeon help buff up my Eeveelutions and then Umbreon UD is a great counter for SP decks, Donphan, Gengar, etc. Overall you should have high damage output with decent HP for very low energy cost. Crobat G is for when I need to OHKO heavy hitters like Machamp.

There's always the problem of:

  • 61 cards - what to take out?
  • Which Eevees to use? I want to do damage T2
  • Prof. Elm > Bebe's Search?
  • How to support the bench

Help please! Thanks!
 
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So, my suggestions:

- 1 Uxie (LA)

Only because, to be honest, I've never needed more than 2-1 Uxie in a deck.

- 2 Judge
+ 1 SP Radar

But I am curious; no Cyrus's Conspiracies?
 
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Solemn_Party said:
To be fair, that's what he's asking for help on.

So, my suggestions:

- 1 Uxie (LA)

Only because, to be honest, I've never needed more than 2-1 Uxie in a deck.

- 2 Judge
+ 1 SP Radar

But I am curious; no Cyrus's Conspiracies?
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Huh, so what would I have Cyrus for? It only grabs basic energies.
 
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Take out the Umbreon UD. Why would you want to stall when you should be hitting for at least 100 + Poison each turn?

NM rotates out in MD-on. Prem Ball might be a good replacement with only 1 of the Leafeon X.

Without Call, I suggest running the CFF Eevee.

Leafeon can be a good deck but your list has a number of problems that you need to solve in order to make it competitive:

1. This deck relies on getting Leafeon and Roserade out fast. With only 2 Collector and no Call, how are you going to get it set up in time?

2. How will you protect Roserade from being an easy snipe kill? Do you have enough recovery to get it back fast?

3. You need a constant supply of Energy to your hand, especially if you don't draw into Rainbow and need to use Energy Forcing. How will you do this? Relying on Uxie alone with 12 Energy in the deck doesn't seem good enough . . . especially if Uxie is sprayed.
 
-1 umbreon ud
+1 unown q- this card is amazing.

-2 wp
-1 nm
-2 judge

+2 poketurn
+2 cyrus conspiracy(just incase u need to search for a turn and an energy)
+ 1 collector

- 2 energy exchange(no point in this deck rly...)
+1 unown return (this is incase you cant find any energy or draw into them search for this with collector drop it return energy from roserade and play them again.)
+1 collector/bebe's

-4 ssu
+1 unown return(consistency)
+3 volkner's(vilplume is a jerk and this is really good draw power.)

edit: forgot you are over by one.

- 1 e belt or bts. pick one.
 
I still do not understand the stacking of nrg on Roserade with no way of switching it. It is an opinion that Mismagius moving the P or Rainbows would be a benefit. With no Hunter, Your nrg is asking to be sniped. Just an opinion.
 
Well, the amusing thing is I really don't even run bats! I don't feel as though that extra damage is necessary as Leafeon can OHKO almost anything on the field if a Rainbow is attached to Roserade. Plus its a Grass type, so you can negate the damage counter placement with Dawn Stadium, which makes it even cooler.

If I feel a threat is coming to my Roserade, I'll either SSU (Or hunter when we get it) it, or drop the Shaymin and move the energies to another Leafeon or an Espeon Prime.

Yes, Espeon Prime. It can make a very solid assist due to its Psychic typing and can do everything that Leafeon UD can do due to its body. That INCLUDES Verdant Dance and Miasma Stream.

I also run Jirachi (RR) as a starter to help me get set up. Free Retreat can't be beaten.

ALSO: Where's your Call energies? Miasma Stream is a C attack. Theres no reason to NOT play Call in a deck like this. Try this energy lineup:

3 Call
4 Rainbow
4 Grass
3 Psychic
 
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I definitely agree on the call energy, and personally I think another collector would do wonders for this deck as well, just for the sake of getting your pokemon out as fast as possible. I've been testing the leafeon/roserade combo too, and I think the most useful card in it is Energy Exchanger; you can get the rainbow energy out of the deck and attach it to roserade for the 2X special condition, and then energy force something onto leafeon if you don't have an energy on it already. My issue is with getting the rainbow energy off of roserade before it gets KO'd; Unown with Return is one thing I tried, but I think Shaymin UL is best for the moving-energy-to-an-SP-and-poketurning-it trick.
 
Thanks for all the help everyone. I don't think I need Call seeing as I have CFF so that's all my Eevees and then a single Collector = Roselia and Uxie + an extra. To get the energies off Roserade I thought SSU would work but Shaymin is an excellent idea. Umbreon UD is good against Luxchomp which I'm worried about and Steelix Prime if that ever gets popular. Also, it's helpful against Donphan which I may not be able to OHKO.

I don't think I need Unown Q with Umbreon MD. I think I definitely need Energy Exchange. I do want SSU.
A 3-1 Uxie with 12 energies, 2 energy exchange and Energy Forcing I think should be enough to have consistent energies. I can also Warp something out and hit for less but still KO.

So what I've summed up is:

- 2 Judge
- 1 Night Maintenance
for

+ 1 Shaymin UN
+ 1 Collector

I don't see why I'd have Call though with Collector and CFF, and that would be almost useless past T1. Also, I'd have to have 3 or 4 for it to really make a change and that's a lot of space.

I like Espeon Prime, it's good against Machamp, but I don't know what to take out.
 
Qwachansey said:
Thanks for all the help everyone. I don't think I need Call seeing as I have CFF so that's all my Eevees and then a single Collector = Roselia and Uxie + an extra. To get the energies off Roserade I thought SSU would work but Shaymin is an excellent idea. Umbreon UD is good against Luxchomp which I'm worried about and Steelix Prime if that ever gets popular. Also, it's helpful against Donphan which I may not be able to OHKO.
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Umbreon is not as good against Luxchomp as you think. They will either KO it with Basics/Bats, or just take Prizes off the Bench.

Against Steelix Prime? You won't be able to KO a Steelix with it. Not ever. I suppose you could hope to stall the game out until time, but that's a risky strategy if they do have a counter. Same goes for Donphan really, but they will find it easier to KO the Umbreon with Fighting Basics or techs.
 
baby mario said:
Umbreon is not as good against Luxchomp as you think. They will either KO it with Basics/Bats, or just take Prizes off the Bench.

Against Steelix Prime? You won't be able to KO a Steelix with it. Not ever. I suppose you could hope to stall the game out until time, but that's a risky strategy if they do have a counter. Same goes for Donphan really, but they will find it easier to KO the Umbreon with Fighting Basics or techs.
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What basics? Garchomp C? If anything it'll allow me to set up. Why wouldn't I KO a Steelix? With EB that's 50, and remember I can't damage the deck without it except with Roserade.
 
Qwachansey said:
What basics? Garchomp C? If anything it'll allow me to set up.
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Luxray Trash Bolt w/ Belt (yes, Belt is seeing play in Luxchomp) or 2 Bat drops = OHKO on Umbreon. But they are still more likely to just hit the Roserades/Uxies on your Bench.

Why wouldn't I KO a Steelix? With EB that's 50, and remember I can't damage the deck without it except with Roserade.
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Even 50 damage will be laughed off by a Steelix with Special Metals/Belt, especially as Steelix decks play plenty of Healing (Life Herb, Poke Healer, Blissey, depending on the list). If you are worried about Steelix, wouldn't a Flareon be a better tech?
 
baby mario said:
Luxray Trash Bolt w/ Belt (yes, Belt is seeing play in Luxchomp) or 2 Bat drops = OHKO on Umbreon. But they are still more likely to just hit the Roserades/Uxies on your Bench.



Even 50 damage will be laughed off by a Steelix with Special Metals/Belt, especially as Steelix decks play plenty of Healing (Life Herb, Poke Healer, Blissey, depending on the list). If you are worried about Steelix, wouldn't a Flareon be a better tech?
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I considered that, but I think Umbreon UD is just a better overall choice. IDK, personal preference. Besides that, what do you think I should take out for Espeon Prime? Thanks for your ideas.
 
Anyway, I'd wanna see some Calls. At the moment, if you don't start with Eevee, you're not attacking for a while. Plus, with Eevee, you can get Roselia+Eevee, setting up a KO next turn.

You're gonna need some sort of insurance against SP though. Power Spray means you effectively lose not only Roserade's power, but also Leafeon's stronger attack with it.
 
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shiftrymaster68 said:
Anyway, I'd wanna see some Calls. At the moment, if you don't start with Eevee, you're not attacking for a while. Plus, with Eevee, you can get Roselia+Eevee, setting up a KO next turn.

You're gonna need some sort of insurance against SP though. Power Spray means you effectively lose not only Roserade's power, but also Leafeon's stronger attack with it.
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Yeah, I was thinking Judge might save me against Power Spray. Also, if I really need a KO and attach an energy to Roserade and it's Sprayed, I can use Energy Forcing. If that's sprayed I can attach Expert Belt to Roserade and attack and hopefully dish out 80+ or attack with Leafeon LV. X. I don't think they'll be able to block my attacks for more than a turn and there's always Espeon Prime.
 
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