Empoleon MD

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by bonslypwns, Apr 20, 2008.

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  1. Rocky500

    Rocky500 New Member

    ugh, can't believe i did that.
     
  2. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    The big question, however: Which Prinplup to use? Do we want
    WC: 30 snipe
    WWC: 60-10

    Or do we want

    W: spread 10
    WW: 40 snipe?

    Either one has it's benefits...but I'm guessing the old one's better here.
     
  3. The_Lurb

    The_Lurb New Member

    ^ The new Prinplup seems better but that's just me.
    Empoleon will be the BDIF.
     
  4. chriscobi634

    chriscobi634 New Member

    i still like the D/P one better as you can start spreading quicker and to a degree more effectively, as far as my idea goes.
     
  5. mca3

    mca3 New Member

    Yep the DP Prinplup is still BEAST!!! I like the DP5 Piplup better though, well kinda! But, Empoleon is SO versatile. I have ran him with EVERYTHING( Quagsire SW, Mismagius, Banette SW, Sableye CG, etc.), I mean He is the ORIGINAL Damage Spreader in the DP sets. I just Hate when people say he is dead, and the turn around and see the New one and start jumping on the bandwagon with wanting to play him again. I mean the NEW one is AWESOME, but the DP one is still SO playable, especially with Cessation and WPs, which is MY style!!! I Cant quit using him, he really makes playing this game fun for me. I mean he isnt as Powerful as when he first came out, but he can still dish it out. So, he might end being the BDIF, but even though I am a Rogue Deck Builder/Player, I am going to Still play him, because I have been playing him since people FORGOT about him. I just cant wait for the NEW one to come out, I have been waiting for a LONG time!!!
     
  6. Rai

    Rai <a href="http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=

    Given experiments with Swampert decks, you'll most likely end up ignoring the stage one :/ If you do use the stage 1's attacks, it's mostly to bide time while you search for the stage 2.

    Prinplup doesn't have enough HP to be useful after like, turn 3. So why are we taking time with WC 30 snipe, when Empoleon does the same thing but to two pokemon? The second attack really should NOT be used either. Finally, the old Prinplup's 10 damage spread can put Gardevoir and the like to 100 HP, which is perfect for Empoleon MD's second attack.

    Therefore, Prinplup DP wins. Well, I'd think so, in any case. I still don't think only ten damage is quite enough to be worth it for several turns, especially when you can use a high HP pokemon, place as many damage counters, but put ANYTHING (but Torterra and LV.X Eevee-lutions if Espeon's in play) into KO range.
     
  7. ~`Flygon`~

    ~`Flygon`~ New Member

    Empoleon is nice,but just hype like it was before
     
  8. DL24

    DL24 New Member

    The hype won it worlds last year. Jus sayin.
     
  9. Bzerk45

    Bzerk45 New Member

    well i guess it "lived up" to the hype then.
     
  10. mca3

    mca3 New Member

    Empo DIDNT win Worlds! It got 2nd and 3rd in Seniors, 3rd in Masters!!!
     
  11. DL24

    DL24 New Member

    U right I may have overexaggerated a little. My point was wat was said earlier: it certainly lived up 2 it.
     
  12. Ignatious

    Ignatious New Member

    Just run it by itself with your preferred started and Claydol. Dusknoir tech is also manditory, imo.
     
  13. Robbgobb

    Robbgobb New Member

    I saw about Dusknoir tearing it up but with 30 to 2 then that means things are ready for KOs and if running Str. Charm/Plus Power with the new Supporter that is suppose to add 20 while in play then don't need 5 on bench to reach a 100+ to finish off most every Pokemon at the moment.
     
  14. Blade rush

    Blade rush New Member

    The ultimate Empoleon list would look like this:

    4-2-4 Empoleon MD
    2-2 Gyarados MT
    2-2 Octillary MT
    3 Pachirisu GE
    2-2 Claydol
    (maybe) 1-1 Mismagius
    It looks like a little bit too much pokemon, but Emp needs em!:biggrin:
     
  15. pichu bros. rox

    pichu bros. rox New Member

    ^More like this:

    4-3-4 Empoleon
    2-2 Claydol
    2 Pachirisu
    1-0-1 Dusknoir
     
  16. Blade rush

    Blade rush New Member

    Yeah, but Gyarados benefits from the possible 10 to all. Why the Dusknoir? I know it's good, but only really useful once. After that, your opponent will be watching their benches
     
  17. Chromecatz

    Chromecatz New Member

    Dusknoir is there to darkpalm the opponents dusknoir lol.
     
  18. mrdraz07

    mrdraz07 New Member

    You really only need 3-2-3-1 Empoleon. Don't say you're not playing the Lv. X. It's amazing.
     
  19. BigChuck01

    BigChuck01 New Member

    Empoleon does NOT combo with other cards that spread damage. Two cards doing the same thing isnt a combo. Just play Empoleon with a good starter and Claydol. + some tech.
     
  20. garchompx12

    garchompx12 New Member

    what about OMASTAR MD??:eek:
     

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