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Final Fantasy Advent Children, finally!!!

Marril said:
I can quite easily. It's like comparing The Matrix to a Jackie Chan movie. Sure, The Matrix (and FF:AC) were able to deliver wildly cinematic, wholly unrealistic, completely unbelievable in the end unfulfilling fight scenes, but something that's more believable is far more enjoyable, because you know that it's possible, and appreciate the level of skill that would go into a fight like that. In other words... I'll put it bluntly, the fight scenes in FF:AC sucked because they were too cinematic, all attempted style, and had no content to them. It's actually quite easy to disagree with the statement that the fight scenes were well done, if you look at them as actual fight scenes instead of strings of RPG moves.

Edit: Yeah, I just remembered the word I was looking for was "believable." Basically, if something's only believable if you're Superman, it's not going to work all that well in any kind of serious movie.



I expected Square to do less pandering to fanboys, and deliver more content, really. It's just the sign that they think their audience is truly juvenile, and care for cinematics more so than plot, characters, or any semblance of realism.

Don't get me wrong, FF7 itself was decent, and I have nothing against its storyline from a design standpoint. That said, the attempt at a "movie" for it was just patronizing and pandering, adding nothing to it as a story and delivering no content even in its visuals.
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Just looking for a reason to argue arent you:rolleyes: ..... think I'll take it out and do some HP EV training outside of Maulville on the lakes... :lol:

I enjoyed the movie alot, even if I have several issues with it. It wasnt really there to fill a void the game left out, since there was none... Cloud and gang save world, world stays saved for 500+ years. Its just a 'hey look what we can do' movie. Its a video game based around a lot of Sci-fi/primitive weaponry/monsters, I dont expect realism. I expect Cloud and others with Jeneova cells to have well above average strength, speed and power.

Also after watching the previews, what exact is FFVII Crisis Core, a game or movie? If game, what system is/will it be released for...

As much as I loved FFVII I was all for the whole no sequals philosiphy that Square used up thru 7, where stroy lines didnt seem to mimic each other so much... now they are soley in it for a profit, and cashing in on their more successfull games, which isnt entirely a bad idea, but still.... they could do a better job than FFVII AC and FFX-2. I'm still curious on FFVII DoC but we'll see...
 
Marril said:
In other words... I'll put it bluntly, the fight scenes in FF:AC sucked because they were too cinematic, all attempted style, and had no content to them.


I expected Square to do less pandering to fanboys, and deliver more content, really. It's just the sign that they think their audience is truly juvenile, and care for cinematics more so than plot, characters, or any semblance of realism.

Don't get me wrong, FF7 itself was decent, and I have nothing against its storyline from a design standpoint. That said, the attempt at a "movie" for it was just patronizing and pandering, adding nothing to it as a story and delivering no content even in its visuals.
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Marill I am starting to think you don't like FF7? You may not like it but no reason to bash it. FF7 is not a subpar RPG (Maybe Subpar nowadays) but a great game that has a great plot. And just becuase you don't like the FANTASY fight scences doesn't mean you sould whine about it. Jesus Christ if you thought Advent Children was sooo bad go make your own freaking 2 hours long CG movie. Oh I forgot you can't:eek:
 
Marill I am starting to think you don't like FF7?
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Ignoring that I said, "Don't get me wrong, FF7 itself was decent, and I have nothing against its storyline from a design standpoint."

And just becuase you don't like the FANTASY fight scences doesn't mean you sould whine about it.
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... I don't have anything against fantasy fight scenes, as long as they're halfway believable and at least try to follow the basic laws of physics. It was basically a dressed-up Dragonball Z fight at the end of FF:AC. For the record, I enjoyed the Zack vs Sephiroth fight in FF: Last Order, and don't mind it when stuff like Kaze shooting his Demon Gun happens in FFU. I simply don't like it when a serious plot attempts to use completely unbelievable fighting to advance its "plot." The problem is juvenile fanboys that want nothing more than to see the characters flying around like Superman, throwing around slews of doomsday attacks that would drop a herd of elephants on a near miss. It's similar to how Tifa was redesigned for the movie—nobody would take her seriously if she was proportioned and dressed how she did in the game. The same applies to the fight scenes.

think I'll take it out and do some HP EV training outside of Maulville on the lakes...
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:frown: :frown: :frown:

Anyways, I don't want to argue this point with fanboys, so I'll take my leave of this thread unless someone says something on a different note which sparks my interest.
 
I was only teasing Marril, I dont really count myself as a Fan Boy, but I do enjoy the games, and mostly enjoyed the movie.... I see the reasons behind what you say and why you say it, but at the end of the day I still bought the movie and will watch it a few more times. I know your veiws and concerns on FFVII even before this movie was an issue and I dont completely disagree with you on those reasons

And as far as AC goes, if it didnt have the FFVII backing it up, most of us would've thought it was a subpar movie with to much action and not enough reasons/story to support those actions. This movie, as good as it was, could have been so much better with a little more effort and time to devolope the story instead of cramming a story inbetween fight scenes.
 
Metagross_Ex said:
I just watched it last night, definately a great movie, but like Spectreon said, it could be so much better.
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I agree with you guy on this one I did enjoy the fight scence but the story was to meh comparied to the game. I liked the Japanese version better the voices where soooo much better.

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Marril said:
... I don't have anything against fantasy fight scenes, as long as they're halfway believable and at least try to follow the basic laws of physics.
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Sorry for the double post >< But I see where you are coming from with the flying and jumping insanly high but also that is what makes it cool I mean in the game all we say was the character jump and hit the enemy then return to his spot and wait to attack again. I like the fact that they tired to make it different from the game and finally give you a look at what the charcters sound like and act like.
I will say I am a Semi FanBoy but not just for 7 I like Final Fantasy in general, latly they games have been diclining in vaule (X-2 made me want to cry it was soooo bad)
Before I end my post I will say once again Marril the FANTASY fight scence don't have to be bond by our Physics the whole point off being FANTASY is that it breaks those boarders and gives us an expirence that we can't imagine hence the title Final FANTASY.
 
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Marril said:
In other words, you prefer style over substance, don't you?
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In this case yes.
But FF-X2 yes style (I guess) but crap battle systeam and even worse story ucky what is Square Enix doing!!!!!!?????
 
Havoc said:
wow, i forgot all about this movie, mainly because i already saw it!! THe japanese version will always be better..I like it, the Tifa fight scene ruled!
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heck yeah, that i watched like 5 times in a row! it was jsut to slick and done so well(i have never played any of the FF games all the way through, i watched firneds play, but i really never did) but i picked up on the names fairly fast. it was a good movie imo.(not a fanboy)
 
just wow..yeah.

I Really liked this movie...but I do agree it could have been better...I Loved the scene where cloud fights on the bike in the tunnel part...sooo..kwel. *Drewls*:thumb:
 
It Was So Kool. I Like The Computer Animation That They Put In! The Facal Features In Each Charater!!! It Was Almost So Real!! I Cant Wait Till The Game Comes Out, A Year After This Movie. I Love It!!! Two Thumbs Way Up!!!
 
PikaChika said:
It Was So Kool. I Like The Computer Animation That They Put In! The Facal Features In Each Charater!!! It Was Almost So Real!! I Cant Wait Till The Game Comes Out, A Year After This Movie. I Love It!!! Two Thumbs Way Up!!!
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Wait. What? There's a game? They're making an FFVII-2?

Okay, whoever said Square are starting to milk their licenses back there gets a golden star.
 
Blaziken98 said:
I liked the Japanese version better the voices where soooo much better.quote]

yea the japanese voices were better but it followed the game very well and it linked to kingdom hearts with sephiroth at the end all the fights were good i liked the whole thing
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They aren't. Fanboys just convince themselves that the Japanese voices are "better" just because they're the "original" voices for them, not giving one second of thought that maybe, just maybe, that's a feeble defense when you consider that it's not how it was "originally" but how it sounds compared to other versions that matters.
 
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