Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Format Shaken after nats?

B

Blitzer

New Member
Ever since nats we have been getting signs that Luxchomp, Gyarados, Cursegar, and Jumpluff are not the only best decks in the format. And by my view Jumpluff, gyara and cursegar all did not do amazing. Except cursegar or some sort of gengar may have done well in juniors, but idk. Right now, i believe that the BDIF's have changed. I believe we can create a rough Tier List that may look like this:

Tier 1
1st: Sablelock
2nd:Luxchomp
3rd: Jumpluff
4th: Gyarados
5th:Cursegar

IMO those are the five best decks in the current modified format and yes, in that particular order.

Discuss.
 
I don't know how strong the decks are relative to each other, I think one of the factors for those decks underperforming at US Nats is because people didn't play them. People realized that Jumpluff, Cursegar, etc have strong matchups versus only the less popular decks, and I think that's why they are kind of underused.
 
Yes, but the point is that the order was shaken around. Sablelock might be turning into a g=huge thing now that Con won nats
 
Definitely agree here, I am sure that Sableye and Luxchomp will be the decks to beat at worlds.

I think part of the decline in Jumpluff is as a result of Entei/Raikou Legend. A lot of Luxchomps were playing this which can single-handedly win you the jumpluff match-up.

i'd say that luxchomp will be played more than Sableye though.
 
lucario123 said:
Yes, but the point is that the order was shaken around. Sablelock might be turning into a g=huge thing now that Con won nats
Click to expand...

Dont go jumping to conclusions. Last year when Luxray/Infernape won Nationals that did not mean that everyone was going to flock to a copy of that deck to run in worlds. Con is a very, very good player, and he could have done well with a lot of different decks. I agree I expect SP to do very well at worlds because the game gives them so many advantages over the set up decks (poketurns, energy gains, power sprays and Cyrus chaining)

Gyrados is played out. After a year most top players have learned how to beat it. Legendary pokemon wnt be a factor until Fall battle roads, the only one playable is ERL and that is just as a tech.

Cursegar is just waaaay tooooo sloooow to compete at Worlds. I will be estatic if a non SP deck can win this year but except for possibly in Juniors I do not see that happening.
 
I wouldn't worry about the format at the moment. With the rotation of sets, every popular deck will be affected in some way, be it a loss of Roseanne's Research, a loss of Multi Energy, a loss of Claydol, or a loss of Night Maintenance, etc, etc.

I see Sableye being added to so many decks, not just for the super help to setup, but for the added disruption with Cyrus' Initiative and the possible attacker in decks that can run Rainbow/Dark energy.

It almost feels, and this is just my first feeling, that the format will head a little back towards starters how the format used to be in the past, where people needed to run 4 of a starter. That's consistency found when you don't have a poke-power to rely on as much.
 
JandPDS said:
Cursegar is just waaaay tooooo sloooow to compete at Worlds. I will be estatic if a non SP deck can win this year but except for possibly in Juniors I do not see that happening.
Click to expand...
Um...I think a good cursegar deck with a good player using it is a ton more scary than an SP deck. Cursegar is slow but it can wall, stall, and fit it many techs.
 
DialgaChomp and Kingdra deserve to be up there over CurseGar and Gyarados. Kingdra literally has no problem with anything in the format except it has a less than perfect matchup against a (very) good LuxChomp player, and definitely is up in the top. When played well, with a "good" list, DialgaChomp is also not dead yet (as Pooka showed at Nats). It just happens to be the toughest deck in the format to get a good list+player together for.

CurseGar and Gyarados are too slow for the present format. They both get their faces beaten in by LuxChomp and SableLock before they have a chance to fight back.
 
Most Popular: LuxChomp (44)
2nd: Sablock (11)
3rd: Garde/Gallade (10)
3rd: Jumpluff (10)
5th: Tyranitar (6)
6th: Dialgachomp (5)
6th: Gyarados (5)
6th: Cursegar (5)
9th: Kingdra (4)
10th: Donphan (3)
10th: Gengar/Garchomp (3)
10th: Machamp (3)
13th: Garchomp SV (2)
13th: Palkia Lock (2)
13th: Shuppet Donk (2)
13th: Flygon Machamp (2)
13th: Flygon Torterra (2)
18th: Regigigas (1)
18th: Gliscor/Tomb (1)
18th: Blaze Sablock (1)


fyi.
 
Jumpluff is dead. It now must rely on Uxie and hand refresh and that makes it even more inconsistent.
Gyarados loses Felicities, we shall see how bad that destroys it.
Luxchomp will still continue to do well
DialgaChomp will see MUCH more play (5 in the whole tournament, iirc 2 of them top16'd)
Gengar/Garchomp may do well if it can run on a cyrus engine
Machamp will obviously decimate
Regigigas is the variable deck imo, it does lose felicities but good players will find a way to make it better.
 
Alex2k said:
Jumpluff is dead. It now must rely on Uxie and hand refresh and that makes it even more inconsistent.
Gyarados loses Felicities, we shall see how bad that destroys it.
Luxchomp will still continue to do well
DialgaChomp will see MUCH more play (5 in the whole tournament, iirc 2 of them top16'd)
Gengar/Garchomp may do well if it can run on a cyrus engine
Machamp will obviously decimate
Regigigas is the variable deck imo, it does lose felicities but good players will find a way to make it better.
Click to expand...

Pretty sure we're still talkin' about this format, kiddo.
 
JBowroxmysox said:
Pretty sure we're still talkin' about this format, kiddo.
Click to expand...
yeah were just talking this format...

1. Luxchomp it did the best overall even though it didn't win there was only one sablelock that did well
2. Sablelock did well overall and won

everything after this is kind of just subpar (gyarados really isnt competitive at all now and cursegar is basically dead)
no ones going to run pluff for worlds because it gets wrecked by ERL
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top