Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Frost Bite aka Flygon/Glaceon

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SaLaMeNcE Xx

SaLaMeNcE Xx

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Okay, so im gonna play in the grinder this year and i have playtested a lot of decks the last few months. But ive never found a deck tat i managed to beat the 2 decks i fear most in grinders Gengar and LuxApe (im playing in masters) Ive playtested this deck against some of the best players in Norway, and i beat those gengar and luxape deck in 8 out of 10 matches.
So...here is the list, and pls feel free to give me fixes to make this deck better :biggrin:

4-2-3-1 Flygon Lv.X This is the main attacker, and i use SW trapinch so gengar cant snipe him
2-2-2 Glaceon Lv.X This is the secondary attacker and the gengar counter because it stops gengars fainting spell, and all other powers.
2-2 Claydol Draw power
1 uxie more draw power
1 Azelf to find priced lv.x
2 Unknown g to make sure gengar cant spread on my bench

4 Roseanne`s
4 Bebe`s
4 Candy
4 Pokw Drawer+
2 BT-S
2 NM
1 Lucian`s Assignment This one has helped me so mutch, because i can move energys from a pokemon that wil get ko`ed to a fresh one
1 Luxury Ball
1 Premier Ball

5 Water
2 Fighting Use 2 here so that i can give claydol free retreat
4 Call
2 Upper

The thing here is that the strategy depends on what deck you are up against. Against gengar i would get up Glaceon Lv.x asap and start hitting with avalanche and hope to do some damage on the opponents bench pokes. Aganst LuxApe it depends a litte on the pokemon my opponent starts with...if he/she starts with luxray, ill get out flygon because of the resistance, but if they play infernape i can ohko it with glaceon lv.x
In the first list i made i played 2 premier balls, but i took one out and added the Lucian`s because i feel that lucians can help me moore mid/late game.
 
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(My english is bad, sory for mi inputs)

My experience said only one premier Ball is nod a good idea (is the same for put only one call energy).

In this deck i prefered to star whit Glaceon Lv X to cut down your opponents powers and give you some time to charge your flygon..

It's a good idea, congrats! and good luck in the grinder!!
 
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We have a similiar deck, running 2-1-2-1 Flygon Lv X line, we are also running Leafeon Lv X, it seems to have some potential but lacks speed to be really competitive. The Upper energy got in the way as it does not work on Lv X's, We also found Level Max extremely helpful so far but need more testing. Good Luck with the deck, Eevee's are so much fun to play
 
Banette EX said:
Flygon and Glaceon have no synergy and lack the speed to be competitive anyway.
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A lot of decks don`t have synergy, but that dont stop ppls from playing them...!
And i guess you never tested this deck, because if u had you would know that its not that slow.
I usually get stuf up by turn 2-3, and if i have a slow start i can use trapinch inviting trap attack and get out my opponents claydol ( or some other pokemon with high retreat cost)
So please dont come here with stupid comments before you actually have tested out this or a similar deck :thumb:

@Hivaro: i know that one premier ball is too little, but ive tried to fit in another but this list is just too tight :D
 
personally i like the combination of glaceon and flygon. it could have alot of potential if played correctly.
i hate it when people say decks wont be compeittive. this deck could do some serious damage if it gets set up quick enough and can frustate opponents being unable to use poke'powers., with flygon backing it up to say no to dialga g lv x

though , unfortunetly i dunno what to advise on the deck building since im not an expert on flygon.
 
I've played against Flygon / Glaceon. I was running SP and basically got a single turn of powers once he got his first Glaceon lv. X. I never got anything going because of the power lock and lost badly, not taking a single prize.

The thing is that Glaceon is SO good against a ton of the format. Power lock is just a pain in the tail for anything that needs stuff like Claydol, Luxray GL, Uxie drops, Mesprit drops, Fainting Spell, Flutter Wings, or other powers to work ... and that's a LOT of the format.

OTOH Glaceon has low HP and weakness to Dialga G. It really wants a backup attacker that's tough and does well vs Dialga ... and Flygon fits that bill pretty well. Additionally Flygon lets you have free retreat on everything in case they do something like Bright Look up your Claydol before you get Glaceon lv. X out. Really IMHO Flygon does well with anything that has a good body and Glaceon is no exception.

The downside of Glaceon / Flygon is that it's relatively slow, needing 3 energy for either good attack and it's not always easy to get all the evolutions / level Xs out quickly. Other decks that focus more on speed (lots of SP builds for instance), can prevent this from setting up at all if they get a good start. Not being able to OHKO stuff as easily as Flygon / Weavile can is also a downside.
 
vanderbilt_grad said:
I've played against Flygon / Glaceon. I was running SP and basically got a single turn of powers once he got his first Glaceon lv. X. I never got anything going because of the power lock and lost badly, not taking a single prize.

The thing is that Glaceon is SO good against a ton of the format. Power lock is just a pain in the tail for anything that needs stuff like Claydol, Luxray GL, Uxie drops, Mesprit drops, Fainting Spell, Flutter Wings, or other powers to work ... and that's a LOT of the format.

OTOH Glaceon has low HP and weakness to Dialga G. It really wants a backup attacker that's tough and does well vs Dialga ... and Flygon fits that bill pretty well. Additionally Flygon lets you have free retreat on everything in case they do something like Bright Look up your Claydol before you get Glaceon lv. X out. Really IMHO Flygon does well with anything that has a good body and Glaceon is no exception.

The downside of Glaceon / Flygon is that it's relatively slow, needing 3 energy for either good attack and it's not always easy to get all the evolutions / level Xs out quickly. Other decks that focus more on speed (lots of SP builds for instance), can prevent this from setting up at all if they get a good start. Not being able to OHKO stuff as easily as Flygon / Weavile can is also a downside.
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I totally agree with you that flygon/glaceon can be slow some times, and thats why i now have added one more lucian`s so that i can focus on getting up one of the pokes and moove the energy to another if its near to get koed. And if i get a realy slow setup i can allways stall a little with trapinch:redface:
 
Speed being a key challenge of these kind of 3-energy-to-attack decks, one thing that I've tested and seems to work good is to make a mix of draw trainers with staple supporters to go through your deck much faster .. you have 12 spots now for that : 4 bebes, 4 roseanne's and 4 drawers ( drawers are only good in pairs.. personally never lked them ). Try a combo of 3 bebes, 3 roseanne's , 3 quick balls and 3 pokedex handy's . If you add the luxury ball, that's 13 T/S , out of which more than half are actually trainers, allowing you to play as many as you get in your hand in the same turn. With the 4 candies, 2-2 claydol and Uxie, you can potentially set up faster. I've been able to do Sand Wall in turn 2 with a build like this in about 50 to 60% of the matches with our Flygon list. And we run 1 lucian's as well .. great combo with the Queen. You retreat , change energies, and let the wounded Flygon heal in the bench while attacking with a fresh one ..
Good luck, hope this helps.
 
If your going to play Glaceon, play it with either Weavile/Techs or Eeveelutions based around it. You need speed and I know Flygon is a nice attacker,but Glaceon has to be active for it be effective.
 
Banette EX said:
If your going to play Glaceon, play it with either Weavile/Techs or Eeveelutions based around it. You need speed and I know Flygon is a nice attacker,but Glaceon has to be active for it be effective.
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That's kind of the point with Flygon. If they manage to get something else active you can just retreat it for free and get your lock back. Weavile isn't going to do much for the WWC level X attack cost either, though I guess it could help with the WCC attack of all the base Glaceons. Water acceleration from something like Leafeon is probably more worthwhile.
 
SaLaMeNcE Xx said:
A lot of decks don`t have synergy, but that dont stop ppls from playing them...!
And i guess you never tested this deck, because if u had you would know that its not that slow.
I usually get stuf up by turn 2-3, and if i have a slow start i can use trapinch inviting trap attack and get out my opponents claydol ( or some other pokemon with high retreat cost)
So please dont come here with stupid comments before you actually have tested out this or a similar deck :thumb:
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*WINS THE ARGUMENT*

I just came back from a small break away from pokemon, and this being the first deck i took a look at, its certainly looks promising. Good luck with it.
 
I just made a glaceon/flygon deck, And i thought i was the only one that used this. I belive even though they have no synergy on first galnce, they actually do. Flygon lv x discards cards and glaceon lv x shuts down pokepowers.
ill post the list later today.
 
slim the flygon line and add 1-1 leafeon, and a flareon to counter dialga that arent leveled up? just my ideas; for the build itself fantastic job. but it really does look as if getting THAT many energy on board will be a problem though. good job

9/10

WAIT, youre running pokedrawer? that changes everything:

8/10
 
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