Gar/Gal

[Dimentio]

4-2-3-2/2 Gardevoir LvX/Gallade
3-3 Furret
1-1 Claydol

3 Celio
2 Copycat
2 Night Maintenance
4 Candy
2 Roseanne
3 SScoop Up
2 TGW
1 TSD
3 Warp Point
1 Windstorm

8 Psychic
2 Multi
4 DRE
2 Scramble

Need input on the Trainers most. Bebe > Celio? Too much Night Maintenance? Too many SScoops and Warp Points? 2 Wagers enough?

Also would like input on 3 Gallade or not, 3 Kirlia or not, and adding in a basic Fighting or not.

 

[Alazor]

If you're playing Super Scoop Ups, why not an Absol ex and a Jolteon *?

 

[Dimentio]

The SSU would lose their purpose in this deck. I use them for late-game pickups when my Pokemon all have quite a bit of damage on them, and if I use them on Jolteon* or Absol ex I now have nothing to Scoop my severely damaged Gallade (For example).

All that aside, I have none of either card.

 

[Alazor]

"All that aside, I have none of either card."

I see, then maybe a Cessation Crystal for mirror matches?

 

[Dimentio]

It could work. I never had actually thought of using Cess Crystal for mirror matches. It'd all depend on how my speed goes, really, and this deck's speed ranges from fast to so slow I end up losing before I get 2 good Gardes out.

 

[ugly psyducky]

Not sure I buy SSU in a G&G. With variable speed starts I'd say make the following changes for consistency:

+2 Roseannes
+1 Celio
-3 SSU.

Might consider changing out 1 of the Copycats for Stevens. It's nice to have a choice of your drawing card when you Keen Eye.

Also probably better with 4-2 Sentret Furret and drop the windstorm for Pachi. Its easier to find and its a good starter. Be very careful in the mirror match as once TGW is down, your opponent can Telepass it and render Keen Eye, useless. I'd almost say don't play TGW if you use Furret, but I do it in my Omastar Deck and I can usually survive.

Hope this helps.

 

[Dimentio]

Not sure I buy SSU in a G&G. With variable speed starts I'd say make the following changes for consistency:

+2 Roseannes
+1 Celio
-3 SSU.

Anything else I can take out for more Roseanne's and Celios? I like my SSU and I'd be willing to push the number down to 1 or 2, but not completely gone.

Also probably better with 4-2 Sentret Furret and drop the windstorm for Pachi. Its easier to find and its a good starter. Be very careful in the mirror match as once TGW is down, your opponent can Telepass it and render Keen Eye, useless. I'd almost say don't play TGW if you use Furret, but I do it in my Omastar Deck and I can usually survive.

Hope this helps.

Should Windstorm even be considered? I've used it a few times, but it wasn't pivotal in the game's ending at all. I'm also a bit worried about Cess Crystal...

Thanks for the advice concerning mirror matches.

 

[Time for Pain]

4-2-3-2/2 Gardevoir LvX/Gallade
3-3 Furret
1-1 Claydol

3 Celio
2 Copycat
2 Night Maintenance
4 Candy
2 Roseanne
3 SScoop Up
2 TGW
1 TSD
3 Warp Point
1 Windstorm

8 Psychic
2 Multi
4 DRE
2 Scramble

Need input on the Trainers most. Bebe > Celio? Too much Night Maintenance? Too many SScoops and Warp Points? 2 Wagers enough?

Also would like input on 3 Gallade or not, 3 Kirlia or not, and adding in a basic Fighting or not.

no on 3 Gallade, yes on 3 kirlia

also if you have 4 ralts - 2 Kirlia - 3 Gardy - 2 Gardy Lv.X - 2 Gallade then get rid of a gardy lv. x to make your deck legal (gardy and gardy lv. x have the same name so you can only have 4 in a deck)