How many eggs does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?

Discussion in 'Ask The VG Experts!' started by keniselvis, Nov 23, 2013.

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  1. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    Probably just as well, Talonflame can't really take a hit to save its life anyways, though if you're that close and the male you're using has SpD and 3+ other correct IVs, probably at most an hour of egg hatching away to get the right stats.

    But yeah good job!
     
  2. P_A

    P_A Active Member

    I SOOOO wish I would have thought of this name for a thread of mine. Cool name bud. Still gives me a smile. lol.
     
  3. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    Just one thing though. The Fletchlings WILL hatch with Gale Wing. If they hatch with their normal abilities, they wont evolve with gale wing.
     
  4. keniselvis

    keniselvis New Member

    Ugh! Some of this breeding stuff....SO FRUSTRATING!

    So...

    1. Get the pokemon you want with the correct nature
    2. Get the pokemon with the correct nature that has the correct hidden ability
    3. Breed to get the right IVs. minimum of 5
    4. EV Train the correct stats
    5. Get the attacks you want
    6. Enjoy

    NOW I am supposed to have bred them with different pokemon to get the attack I want?! (sigh...good grief)


    So is the real process then:

    1. Breed the pokemon until you get the attack you want. (ex. A Merill with Aquajet)

    2. Breed the pokemon to get the nature that you want

    3. Get the pokemon with the correct nature that has the correct hidden ability

    4. Breed to get the right IVs. minimum of 5

    5. EV Train the correct stats

    6. Get the OTHER attacks you want

    7. Enjoy

    Is there anything else I'm missing?!?! Thanks!
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2014
  5. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    If you use the Everstone, the nature is 100 percent guaranteed. First get the IVs on the Pokemon you want. For example, get the you want with the 5+ IV's first. Dont worry about Nature. Both parents can pass natures now with Everstone. Once you get the IV's you want, find another parent with the nature and moves you want and breed the IVs using the Destiny Knot, to get the 5 IVs on the Pokemon with the Nature and moves you want. The Ability do want will be a 50 percent chance to pass.

    When I was breeding my Talonflames, I was able to get babies with 4 IVs each time with Gale Wing like every other egg.
     
  6. keniselvis

    keniselvis New Member

    So...what you are saying is that it won't take that much longer to get the guy with the moves I want. is that correct?
     
  7. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    Yep. Once you have the ground work done (getting the 5+ IVs on a poke) just use the destiny knot, since it passes 5 IVs from a parent and breed them to the poke you want. Also abuse the wonder trade. I unloaded all my gale wing Fletchlings and got a 5 IV male charmander with egg moves that I'll be using for breeding.
     
  8. keniselvis

    keniselvis New Member

    Hey! You weren't kidding! It really didn't take very long! THANKS for the heads up!!!
     
  9. mahius

    mahius New Member

    Seems like chain breeding is the way to go for 5 IV Pokemon. Hmm, that would require the 5 IV to be male since you only get eggs from the female. Now I wonder what max IVs you can get from friend safari? I've heard that some people have caught 4 IV Pokemon in there.

    People actually trade worthwhile pokemon on wonder trade? Well I did get a 3IV japanese rotom, even though they were HP+ATT+DEF. I usually expect to get nothing worthwhile though.
     
  10. keniselvis

    keniselvis New Member

    I've gotten a few 5 IV pokes through wonder trading! Although my son got one that was hacked. It is a rhyhorn that knows Dragon rush.

    What I want to know now is how long it takes to get 6 IVs. I run out of patience just getting 5!

    And I think the max IVs on friend safari are 3.

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  11. vaporeon

    vaporeon Moderator

    You'll always find a Pokemon with 2 perfect IVs on the Friend Safari. Getting more 31 are just luck but it does provide a base to start with. Getting the 6th 31 IV on breeding seems to be luck for me as well. I'm sure there's a trick with the power items to get the last 31.
     
  12. mahius

    mahius New Member

    Have one 5IV parent holding destiny knot and the other with the remaining IV holding the relevant power item. Then... breed and hope for the best! That's gotta be it, but there's really no need for 6IVs competitively since a Pokemon would specialize either physical or special attack and not both.
     
  13. Pikamaster

    Pikamaster Active Member

    There is no guaranteed way to breed a 6 31 IV Pokemon, no trick to it with items. (Well, that's slightly inaccurate, but I'll explain)

    So as we all know, with the Destiny Knot you guarantee 5 IVs to pass down from the parents, which leaves the 6th to be randomly generated. If you breed a 31/x/31/31/31/31 with a 31/x/31/31/31/31 you have a 1/6 chance of passing down the IVs you want. However, when that randomly generated IV is generated as a 31 (1/32 chance), it's possible that you have passed down that imperfect attack as one of the passed IVs and you still only get a 5 IV.

    This being so, the best way here to get a 6 31 IV Pokemon is to simply breed and hope. Once you have one 6 IV parent, you put it in and your chances go up by 50% for when that 31 is generated. If you have both your parents as 6 31 IVs, you have a 1/32 chance of breeding a 6 IV Pokemon.

    The alternative method is the forecast method, where you have two parents in the daycare (preferably both Magikarp) that have no 31 IVs. Then save before getting an egg, hatch it and check to see if it has a 31 IV. But I'll let people google this as there are guides out there which explain it better than I could.
     
  14. keniselvis

    keniselvis New Member

    interesting. Thanks for adding to the discussion.
     
  15. shrksz

    shrksz New Member

    That is good to hear
     
  16. taiba123

    taiba123 New Member

    The great thing is that the vast majority of Pokemon do not need perfect IVs in all six stats because they are geared toward physical or special attacks (so you can have non-perfect IV in attack on Chandelure for example, who should never be using physical moves anyways). So for most intents and purposes you can skip the last step where you hope to get that last IV perfect randomly.
     

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