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Info on first American BW set

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Time will tell, in the end we all have to adapt to the new environment whether there is a change or not. I honestly don't think the theme decks are gonna impact U.S. Regionals much unless they decide to contain BW booster packs in it lol. We'll see Wat happens.
 
lol_of_time said:
Time will tell, in the end we all have to adapt to the new environment whether there is a change or not. I honestly don't think the theme decks are gonna impact U.S. Regionals much unless they decide to contain BW booster packs in it lol. We'll see Wat happens.
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Look, you are wrong here. By a long shot

Odds are that the BW starter decks are going to have the new rulebook, which will have the new rules. And odds are that those rules in the rule book will be implemented in regionals.

Being able to play trainers going first is going to make regionals a joke. Seriously, half of the games are going to end on the first turn with people being able to use collector for double crobat and unown dark with a sableye start.

It isn't the cards in the decks that are going to affect regionals, it's the rulebook.
 
GodBlessAmerica said:
Look, you are wrong here. By a long shot

Odds are that the BW starter decks are going to have the new rulebook, which will have the new rules. And odds are that those rules in the rule book will be implemented in regionals.

Being able to play trainers going first is going to make regionals a joke. Seriously, half of the games are going to end on the first turn with people being able to use collector for double crobat and unown dark with a sableye start.

It isn't the cards in the decks that are going to affect regionals, it's the rulebook.
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True but idk if they are really gonna do that since the set isn't really out by the time for regionals, so it'll be kinda dumb if they decide to change the rules 10days before regionals when they only released the theme decks. However, I am not saying that they won't change the rules, I am just implying that the odds of changing the rule EVEN IF they have the new rule book its gonna be low chance that they'll change the rules for regionals, under my point of view/opinion. Also, even if they decide to change the rules, all I can do is make the best deck under that situation since even if I wine about it they won't change the rule back so I'll just have to adapt and make a good deck and do my best just like any other time pretty much.
 
GodBlessAmerica said:
Look, you are wrong here. By a long shot

Odds are that the BW starter decks are going to have the new rulebook, which will have the new rules. And odds are that those rules in the rule book will be implemented in regionals.

Being able to play trainers going first is going to make regionals a joke. Seriously, half of the games are going to end on the first turn with people being able to use collector for double crobat and unown dark with a sableye start.

It isn't the cards in the decks that are going to affect regionals, it's the rulebook.
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This makes one HUGE leap of an assumption - That we're having a mid season rule change. While I'm not saying it's out of the question, Its very possible the rule changes won't hit till our fall set.
 
Lawman said:
It has always been the rule that cards from a set are not legal until the SET is released in the USA. Ergo, IMO, B/W will not be legal for States. Reg's will be wide open though w. the B/W set.

The bigger Q will be if we get the new rules implemented right away for Reg's.

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The difference would be if these are 'promo' decks, like the TK Raichu/Gyarados set. If that's the case, they're considered separate and they'd be totally legal.
 
I talked to one of the premier organizers for FL she said she seriously doubts anything will be legal from BW including starter cards before regionals is over. Unless you regionals is i May but I think most of them are in april.
 
^Even the 'preview' tins that hit the shelves March 9th? I can see that as a major headache explaining... "Yes, these cards have been in the store for more than a month, but we still haven't decided they exist." *facepalm*

As far as the rule change goes, I don't think they'll change the rules when the decks come out, I think they'll wait for the actual set. The starters that are in the deck have no Abilities, (If the Samurott and Emboar are the counterparts to the Serperior that we know) and the only other card confirmed in the decks (Galvantula) also doesn't have an Ability. As long as they don't include Rare Candy in there, there really won't be much for the rules to change. Yes, the whole Trainers first turn thing MIGHT be addressed, but I seriously doubt it. It looks like all of the Black and White cards we're getting BEFORE Regionals can safely be played with the current rules.

.....Throw out this entire statement if any of the decks come with Pokemon Catcher...
 
ShuckleLVX said:
This makes one HUGE leap of an assumption - That we're having a mid season rule change. While I'm not saying it's out of the question, Its very possible the rule changes won't hit till our fall set.
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Here's the deal, chances are that the new rules are going to be in the rule book for the 1st set of the new generation. It has happened the last 2 generations. (R&S and D&P)

With that said, if some kid buys a starter deck and reads the rules and learns how to play the game. Then goes to regionals and is told that Regionals doesn't play by the rulebook he just learned from, things are going to get confusing.
 
GodBlessAmerica said:
Here's the deal, chances are that the new rules are going to be in the rule book for the 1st set of the new generation. It has happened the last 2 generations. (R&S and D&P)

With that said, if some kid buys a starter deck and reads the rules and learns how to play the game. Then goes to regionals and is told that Regionals doesn't play by the rulebook he just learned from, things are going to get confusing.
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You're making a large assumption that they are going to change the rules to B&W rules. Who's to say the rulebook won't basically be the same thing? I'd expect the change to be in our fall set, if they apply rules meant for HGSS-on to MD-on then they are just begging for trouble.
 
Caleb said:
You're making a large assumption that they are going to change the rules to B&W rules. Who's to say the rulebook won't basically be the same thing? I'd expect the change to be in our fall set, if they apply rules meant for HGSS-on to MD-on then they are just begging for trouble.
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Everyone is making large assumptions because nobody has any evidence to point us in any direction.

The person you quoted is right when they say that we've always gotten the new rules in the same set Japan did.

You're right that if TPCi passed Japan's HGSS-on rules in a MD-on (or even PL-on) format, there would be negative effects to the format.

Why don't we set our assumptions aside and just wait and see what happens. It's not like TPCi is going to take back the rule changes if they go ahead and publish them in the BW rule book. And it isn't outside of TPCi's control to move cards, heck even important elements of sets, from one set to another.
 
Prime said:
Why don't we set our assumptions aside and just wait and see what happens. It's not like TPCi is going to take back the rule changes if they go ahead and publish them in the BW rule book. And it isn't outside of TPCi's control to move cards, heck even important elements of sets, from one set to another.
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I'm very disappointed to see that people still find it necessary to insult people for discussing the state of the game. I'm guessing you're one of the people who said TPCi didn't listen when we were discussing the changes made to top cut for cities. You have a valid point in that we don't know how things will turn out, but at the same time I think it's a bit harsh to attack anyone who decides to discuss the issue on a discussion forum.
 
Caleb said:
I'm very disappointed to see that people still find it necessary to insult people for discussing the state of the game. I'm guessing you're one of the people who said TPCi didn't listen when we were discussing the changes made to top cut for cities. You have a valid point in that we don't know how things will turn out, but at the same time I think it's a bit harsh to attack anyone who decides to discuss the issue on a discussion forum.
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Definite "attack".

I don't think I attacked anyone. I sure didn't "insult" anyone.

And, I didn't participate or state an opinion in any of the threads you're mentioning.

There's only so many times that a conversation can transpire based on little information. The conversations end up being the same, "You're making a big assumption that..." and "there's no proof that...".

You just go round and round with neither person being able to prove their point and nothing comes of it.

Is it rude of me to try to deter this merry-go-round discussions?
 
Trouble is when people hear (unofficially) about stuff that happens in Japan and then post as fact that we are getting it at a certain time. That's just scaremongering a lot of the time.

It's not really discussing the state of the game cos we don't even know what that state will be yet. It's completely different from discussing actual announced changes like the Prize rule.

I always like to wait until I know for certain.
 
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