Item cloning question.

Discussion in 'Electronic Games' started by Azure Kite, Sep 6, 2007.

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  1. Azure Kite

    Azure Kite New Member

    Ok I don't come to this board much and there may have already been a topic or discussion about this or something but does anyone know the right way to clone items? I don't want to clone a pokemon with the item because I can't since my Wi-Fi is down.
    I looked on Gamefaqs and they didn't have anything and if they don't have anything then nothing else probably will.

    I tried a way that my brother told me about where you do a double battle with two other trainers anywhere and use a Ditto and a pokemon that can use thief. Then give the pokemon with theif the item you want to clone then obviously you get Ditto to transform into the thief pokemon you have then next turn have the Ditto use theif on the other pokemon with the item. I didn't have high hopes myself and suprise suprise it didn't work!
    So if someone knows a good way to clone only the item then it would be apreciated.
     
  2. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    I'm not sure there is a way. I know it can be done on Emerald, but that' it as far as I know.
     
  3. Azure Kite

    Azure Kite New Member

    Yeah I forgot to specify Diamond but thats the game. I guess the friend code helped.
     
  4. Rulemaster

    Rulemaster New Member

    they took the giltch out for the english version, along with a lot of other glitches. the only way to clone w/o a cheat device is the GTS method, which i havent tried.
     
  5. EeveeLover929

    EeveeLover929 New Member

    My friend, those 999 Master Balls (or whatever it is you want to clone) will have to wait till you can get back on Wi-fi, cause you ain't cloning them otherwise.
     
  6. Marril

    Marril New Member

    You make it sound like a bad thing that you can't cheat at the game.
     
  7. Azure Kite

    Azure Kite New Member

    I'm not talking about cloning pokemon to be able to get way better stuff over the GTS. THATS cheating.
     
  8. EeveeLover929

    EeveeLover929 New Member

    Yeah, these days I only clone for trophies and for prize pokemon.
     
  9. Marril

    Marril New Member

    "It's okay, because I only cheat a little bit"?
     
  10. EeveeLover929

    EeveeLover929 New Member

    Marril, I'm not going to argue about this again. It's okay, because aside from being able to give freely to the community at no loss to myself (prizes), there is absolutely no personal gain. I get bragging rights and that's it.
     
  11. Azure Kite

    Azure Kite New Member

    Ooooo Marriljustgotowned.com! Hehe uh yeah....anyway thats not what I'm saying. What I consider cheating is doing something illegal that allows you to get pumped up and/or rare pokemon at no cost and something that would make you unfairly stronger. My brother does that.
     
  12. EeveeLover929

    EeveeLover929 New Member

    My definition of cheating is doing something that will award you personal gain for less effort than it would take to do it the way you are told. For instance, the Door Glitch. It's a tradeoff, focus for patience. Instead of having to be patient and wait for a Darkrai Event to come your way, you trade in your patience for an equal amount of focus. Plus, there's serious risk, you could very easily get lost forever in the Void if you miscalculate. That isn't cheating, that's taking initiative.
     
  13. Marril

    Marril New Member

    Not in the slightest. What you fail to realize is that cloning is still cheating, even if there is no perceived advantage. It doesn't magically stop being cheating just because you don't like to be called a cheater. If you've ever heard of the saying, "if the shoe fits, wear it," then you'll know what I'm talking about.

    That Darkrai example is pure bull hockey, I might add. Cheating can be as simple as violating player expectations about the game (the definition used by the legendary online game designer Raph Koster). Players, on the whole, would probably expect that their opponent wouldn't cheat, if only of the simple virtue of never having heard of the glitch, or not thinking that others would use it (similar to how hotly contested getting 128 of an item at once through MissingNo. was). By abusing this, you violate their expectations, and thus are cheating. End of debate.

    I'm sorry, but "it's not cheating because I don't want to be called a cheater" simply doesn't fly. Flimsy rationalization does nothing except make you look foolish and ignorant.
     
  14. EeveeLover929

    EeveeLover929 New Member

    Marril, I'm not going to discuss this with you again, and I advise everyone else to avoid getting into this conversation with her. It's completely futile. She won't change her mind, s just forget about it and ignore her whenever she tries to begin this conversation.
     
  15. Azure Kite

    Azure Kite New Member

    I learned its pointless reasoning with her a long time ago. And I never invited her to this topic even of she has access to it. suprise suprise I still disagree with you but say I am just doing something and AM calling it cheating. Will that change whether theres a way or not? It dosen't look like it. This topic wasen't made for you to come and call me a cheater which I am not. apparently no one yet has a way other than cloning pokemon. ANd believe it or not I agree with you that "Its not cheating because I don't want to be called a cheater" dosen't cover it. But I never said that or intended something I said to be taken as such. Marril you really should do debate or something you'd be good at it.
     

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