LuxChomp Opinions?
- Thread starter Blitzer
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IMO:
1.) Drop 6 cards
2.) Insert 4 Sableye
3.) Insert 2 Cyrus Initiative
4.) Decide if you want a Judge, and optionally consider a Junk Arm if you don't already play one since Sableye makes good fodder
Mesh it up with Sablock (maybe we can get some input from those that have experimented with "Loxchomp" as well). I wouldn't focus on a lock like Sablock very much, just change the deck enough to play 4 Sableye and put them to use. Realistically the only way you lose to Sableye donks in this way is if it goes to a coin flip and they win it.
I still think its a good play, but I haven't tested it or anything. Best thing to do would be to try it yourself.
1.) Drop 6 cards
2.) Insert 4 Sableye
3.) Insert 2 Cyrus Initiative
4.) Decide if you want a Judge, and optionally consider a Junk Arm if you don't already play one since Sableye makes good fodder
Mesh it up with Sablock (maybe we can get some input from those that have experimented with "Loxchomp" as well). I wouldn't focus on a lock like Sablock very much, just change the deck enough to play 4 Sableye and put them to use. Realistically the only way you lose to Sableye donks in this way is if it goes to a coin flip and they win it.
I still think its a good play, but I haven't tested it or anything. Best thing to do would be to try it yourself.
Playing 4 Sableye doesn't just protect you from the donk, it steals the first turn. With the rule changes, there is now zero disadvantage to going first. A T1 Collector, followed by an energy drop, followed by Impersonating for a Cyrus, Energy, and Power Spray could spell huge trouble for your opponent. In my opinion, 4 Sableye is a must in BW Luxchomp, and Call Energy just lost a ton of viability since you can't Impersonate AND Call T1.
Ignatious
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Impossible. 17171717171
First off, playing 4 sableye doesn't protect you from the donk. It just decreases your chances. If there was a rule that said "if you have 4 sableye in your deck, sablelock is not allowed to beat you", it would be a good play. But making room for that many cards is pretty tough without sacrificing for every other matchup. Plus if you do steal the first turn with sableye, you still need a way to get more basics out that is already in your hand. It's already been said that you can't impersonated anything to your bench.
It protects you from the donk moreso than NOT playing 4 Sableye does. True, Impersonate doesn't bench any pokemon, but going first at least gives you the opportunity to bench something. If you're playing 4 Collector, a Bebe's or 2, a couple SP Radar, Communication, etc., you should be able to bench something. Also, it's pretty rare for an opponent to start with 3 SP and a Spray in their opening hand, so you're likely to be guaranteed a free Set Up with Uxie if you go first.
We can't view going first the same way that we did pre-BW because the new rules give ZERO disadvantage to the player going first. You get the first level up. You get the first attack. You get the first energy drop. You get the first shot at benching pokemon and setting up a T1 spray. You get the first shot at Impersonating into a Cyrus chain if you didn't have one in your opening hand. I guess I just don't see how this advantage isn't worth the 4 spaces.
