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Making U.S Nationals more legitimate

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And how many players are put down because they haven't won something? How many times has someone posted that I don't know how they feel because I've never won a tournament?

The truth is that everyone gets scrutinized and put down at some point in their online life. The excuse that certain people are put down because they have "won" something doesn't work because of that. The only difference between the people who have won something being attacked and everyone else being attacked is that usually the ones that have won something are more vocal about being attacked. They let people know that they weren't given respect. They keep the public well informed that they were scrutinized. And they make it sound like they were treated so badly. But the truth is that most people don't get the respect they deserve online.

And my honest advice is to get over it. If anyone knows anything about not getting the respect they deserve, it's me. And in the past, I might have made that clear, but I'll never keep rubbing it in the noses of the public like certain people do.

There is no difference between us all. We are all just players of a game. Ugliness infects us all, and we all get disrespected. It's how we react to it when it happens that molds who we are.
 
Let's not get into who deserves the most respect here. That's just another form of elitism.

On the topic of who should make the cut at tournaments like Nats and Worlds, my opinion is that nobody who wins more than 70% of their games should miss the cut. This means that if there were ten rounds, all 8-2s would make it, and 7-3s would have to live and die by the computer. If there were nine rounds, all 7-2s (77.8%) would make it, and 6-3s would live and die by resistance. Eight rounds would mean that all 6-2s (75%) make it, and 5-3s have to pray for a good tiebreaker. That sort of thing.

Run however many swiss rounds you want - just pick a win percentage and make the cut large enough that all those who exceed that percentage make it in, with the leftovers at the mercy of the computer.
 
It looks like this thread has run its course. I know "IhatePrime"'s post was deleted, but to make a sockpuppet acct to attack a person, much less a Mod here is pretty pathetic. Of course, that sockpuppect was probably one of our "elite" or wannabe thinking I am "elite" players. (And they wonder why they get bashed for their arrogance!)

Look, many people, including Staff @ Nats believe that a more legit top cut is warranted. But, there are time, space and man hour limitations. (Unlike the limitless sour grapes) At any major tourney, someone is going to get cut by resistance. It is the nature of the beast. PUI and POP is not going to take away the Prof Cup on friday (a REWARD to the Staff, PTOs, multiple tourney judges, etc) to give that time to the "whiners". Yes, many (not all of you) come across very "whiny" in that you "think" you "deserve" more than anyone else and by gosh, we are the elites....you must listen to us and give us what "we" want! POP goes a good job of reviewing this forum and taking GOOD VALID suggestions and implementing them. Give PUI a chance to work thru these issues. They havent even announced the format of Nats yet. Maybe they are working on a better model already.

Before the attacks started up on Prime and after the inital few posts, there were some good points raised. ie PROP 48 for one.

Keith
 
I have no idea which immature brat posted anti-prime crap, but I'm standing by my position in this topic.

Doing that bs only hurts our argument. Grow up =\
 
I have to say that Prop 48 is a great practical and workable suggestion that can significantly improve the US National Championship, or any other Pokemon tournament that approaches these incredibly high numbers of players. Kudos to Chad for identifying a problem, and to Vince for identifying a solution.
 
Articjedi said:
I have no idea which immature brat posted anti-prime crap, but I'm standing by my position in this topic.

Doing that bs only hurts our argument. Grow up =\
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...And once again I'll piggyback right on that: I agree with Artic.

THIS IS WORLD WAR ONE POLITICS PEOPLE!!!
 
The only way Nationals would have been more legitimate is if Jim Ferrell, Jake Burt, and Jacy Sturkie were there.
 
A solution that throws up new problems to fix isn't realy a solution.

Here's my picked apart cut down version of Scizor/Chads first post.
Scizor said:
No more 7-2, 6-2, X-2 missing a large cut like a T32

Add prizes to the entire T32
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So why is that so contentious? Because it is an unhappy mix of solution and problem. An unhappy mix as the two statements are orthogonal and since there was already a 'MORE' thread running I tried hard to ignore the MORE part of the original post. I fail to see how Scizor and others can be surprised if posters address the more aspect and show a degree of irritation with the topic being raised again. However ignoring that aspect left a much more interesting and reasonable problem statement on X-2s missing the cut. As an engineer I'm naturally drawn to problems, I want to fix stuff, I don't want to make things worse, though being human I know that I sometimes will.

Just focussing on the X-2 issue:-

If you examine what it is about the present structure that causes X-2s to miss the T32 at a big event you may be able to see changes that can be made. Each should then be evaluated to see what costs and risks it's introduction might produce. Carefull examination shows that the present system isn't fatally flawed. A small change in the round breakpoints and the X-2s wont miss the cut anymore. It wasn't even the case that an extra round is always needed once attendance rises.

If anyone should win this thread right now its SuperWooper http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=982823&postcount=142
 
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I dont think a T48 would work the numbers would be thrown off 48/24/12/6/3..... 3 a top three taht gives a bye into the T2.

(More to come not finished reading)
 
Lol, Mike you have to read the proposal again, because it would cut to the T48, but the T16 in there would get a bye and 17-48 would play a match, leaving 16 players to play vs the first 16, leaving 32 players like it is now.
 
so they wanna change rules that have been implace for a long time in other games cuz they don't like going 7-2 and not making a cut. sry but adding more stipulations to who plays etc is worse than going with the fighting over the top 3 thing. add anouther round of swiss or mikey will come from seed 37 and pwn every one... NE regionals any one.......
 
Rainbowgym said:
Just curious but wouldn't it take as much time to play Prop48 as it would take T64?
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Yes that is why a T64 is best. but a T48 would be the next best solution. Otherwise they should just use 8 pods and take the top 4 from each pod for the Top 32.
 
So, is the main problem with having T64 vs T32 a question of time required? One more round on day 2?
Or is it a question of the staff required to judge that many more games involved in the extra round?
 
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