Mini Bitsy Chansey Contest

[Qwachansey]

I'm afraid there is no way not to let my personal opinions count to my judging. If you would take the time to help me with this problem rather than say how bad a contest this is, I'm sure we would both appreciate it.

 

[greenzangoose]

You want help? Yes? Alright then, I'll go into detail over why we are believing that your personal opinions are getting in the way. I'll start from the top.

Charmander Rox's grading.

Top Stats - 8. The level seems a bit high, since PT Chansey is 20 levels lower. It is considerably better than PT Chansey, though. Maybe Level 38 or 40?

A little weak but it is part of what we're talking about, the level of Chansey has nothing to do with how good or bad the card is, Charmander Rox most likely made a number up off the top of his head.

Grammar - 5. "Put 1 damage counter on each of your opponent's Pokémon that got tails."
So if I have a Charmander (which has a tail), it takes a damage counter, but if I have a Snorlax it doesn't take a damage counter since it doesn't have a tail?

What? I'm not sure that even makes sense, look at the underlined part below.

[C] Easter Eggs
Flip a coin for each Pokémon in play. Remove 3 damage counters from each of your Pokémon that got heads. Put 1 damage counter on each of your opponent's Pokémon that got tails

Heads and Tails = coin flip, not heads or tails on a Pokemon's body...

Next over to Meditite Rox's grading

You made a small fuss over the level, re-read what I'd said about non-important card facts above...

Attacks - 35. Flip Over seems pretty pointless, I doubt I would ever use it.

So... you wouldn't use it so you don't like it? Is it weak? No, 20 damage for nothing is good, even with the 20 to self...

Appearance - -1. I prefer [ ] to [.].

... why? ... really? ... if Meditite Rox wants to write it out that way rather than your way it shouldn't matter, the card is still readable right?

And continuing onto Shiny Noctowl's grading...

Bottom Stats - 8. Retreat Cost is high.

Anything with less than three you dock points for... and anything more than one you dock points for... you know there are Chansey's with more or less than 2 retreat cost right?

http://pokebeach.com/scans/ex-ruby-and-sapphire/96-chansey-ex.jpg

http://www.pokezam.com/tcg/base/3.jpg

Grammar - 5. Chansey in the flavor text should be capitalized. The bottom stats are very hard to understand

Not only is Chansey already capitalized, but it doesn't even really matter...

Appearance - - 15. VERY hard to read. [C][C][C] should replace CCC. [ ] is better than *. Atatcks should not be in parentheses. {F} should be [F]. None in resistance should be [ ]. Put lines between your attacks and stats. Look at the previous posts for correct formatting.

I can see this as being a little hard to read, but why should [C][C][C] replace CCC? I can read both rather easily? Why should 'none' be replaced with []? And why should {F} be [F]? Again, neither of them are really different and would be the same if the card was ever made.

Next, Godzfirefly's grading...

Attacks - 35. Egg Storm is a suicide move. Try 30 damage per head and 20 to Chansey per tail.

If the fact that the move is a suicide attack is the only reason you're docking points then you are clearly in the wrong. I could see if it was unlike Chansey to have that type of attack... but it isn't. The first Chansey ever made, and several since, have hurt itself with it's own attack.

Grammar - 9. Chansey in flavor text should be capitalized.
Appearance - -1. Pet Peeve: Don't use "selflessly" as a word twice. Maybe in the flavor text change it to "happily".

Pet peeve: pet peeves shouldn't get in the way of what you do or change what you do, selflessly is a perfectly fine word whether you like it or not. Oh, and Chansey is capitalized in the flavor text... again...

Now onto my grading.

Grammar - 5. "Any Pokemon evolved from this Pokemon". That doesn't make sense. Try "all Evolutions of Chansey". "from to each of your Pokemon". That doesn't make sense. The "B" and "P" in Poke - power and Poke - body should be capitalized.
Appearance - -5. Separate your attacks and stats. (C) should be [C].

Once again, (C) = [C] = {C} = C = ~C~ = <C> = whatever... it doesn't matter.

And last, ensignmerlin.

Bottom Stats - 6. Retreat cost is low. If it has a weakness x2 to fighting, Machamp will destroy it.

Would Machamp not already destroy it due to it being able to OHKO basic pokemon?

Grammar - 6. "remove" should have a capital R. PokéBody should be Poké - Body or Poké - BODY.

'Remove' = doesn't matter enough in my book, though this is small.
And... Poke-body = Poke-Body = PokeBody = Poke~Body = Poke^Body = Whatever... why does this matter? There is no 'set' way to do it so as long as you can understand what it is then it's fine.


There, I've went through and have shown exactly what we are talking about. If you would still like help on the subject PM me and I'd be glad to help you.

 

[Qwachansey]

You want help? Yes? Alright then, I'll go into detail over why we are believing that your personal opinions are getting in the way. I'll start from the top.

Charmander Rox's grading.



A little weak but it is part of what we're talking about, the level of Chansey has nothing to do with how good or bad the card is, Charmander Rox most likely made a number up off the top of his head.

The Level does matter. A basic Pokemon should not be level 50 if it is as good as a Level 10 Pokemon. In my opinion, a strange level doesn't make sense.

What? I'm not sure that even makes sense, look at the underlined part below.

Would this make sense?

Choose one of your opponent's Pokemon in play. Flip a coin. If heads, that Pokemon receives one damage counter. If tails, do nothing. Repeat this process with each of your opponent's other Pokemon in play until you have flipped a coin for each of their Pokemon.

That works for me.

Heads and Tails = coin flip, not heads or tails on a Pokemon's body...

Next over to Meditite Rox's grading

You made a small fuss over the level, re-read what I'd said about non-important card facts above...



So... you wouldn't use it so you don't like it? Is it weak? No, 20 damage for nothing is good, even with the 20 to self...

20 damage when doing 20 to itself strikes me as insane. Why in the world would you use that? I simply don't think that makes sense.

... why? ... really? ... if Meditite Rox wants to write it out that way rather than your way it shouldn't matter, the card is still readable right?

You have a point there. It is simply easier for me to read it my way.

And continuing onto Shiny Noctowl's grading...



Anything with less than three you dock points for... and anything more than one you dock points for... you know there are Chansey's with more or less than 2 retreat cost right?

http://pokebeach.com/scans/ex-ruby-and-sapphire/96-chansey-ex.jpg

http://www.pokezam.com/tcg/base/3.jpg

The first card is a Chansey EX, which is very different from a normal Chansey. The second one is a Chansey from Base. Cards have changed a LOT since then.

Example:

Fearow (Jungle)

[C][C][C][C] Drill Peck 40

VS.

Fearow (Diamond and Pearl Series)

[C][C][C] Drill Peck 60



Not only is Chansey already capitalized, but it doesn't even really matter...

In the flavor text, the name of a Pokemon is always capitalized - every letter is capitalized. Chansey would be CHANSEY. That matters to me because it makes the card more like a normal one.


I can see this as being a little hard to read, but why should [C][C][C] replace CCC? I can read both rather easily? Why should 'none' be replaced with []? And why should {F} be [F]? Again, neither of them are really different and would be the same if the card was ever made.

This card is really hard to read for me. The "none" makes it seem as if under the Retreat Cost, it says "none" when in reality, it is [ ]. You are correct about {F} being the same as [F]. However, what I docked points for was that they had CCC and then {F}, which is a different style on the same card and confused me.

Next, Godzfirefly's grading...



If the fact that the move is a suicide attack is the only reason you're docking points then you are clearly in the wrong. I could see if it was unlike Chansey to have that type of attack... but it isn't. The first Chansey ever made, and several since, have hurt itself with it's own attack.

I always consider suicide attacks terrible. It's probably because I love Chansey and hate to see it hurt itself.

Pet peeve: pet peeves shouldn't get in the way of what you do or change what you do, selflessly is a perfectly fine word whether you like it or not. Oh, and Chansey is capitalized in the flavor text... again...

Now onto my grading.



Once again, (C) = [C] = {C} = C = ~C~ = <C> = whatever... it doesn't matter.

And last, ensignmerlin.



Would Machamp not already destroy it due to it being able to OHKO basic pokemon?

I do not think a x2 Weakness is fair, regardless of Machamp.


'Remove' = doesn't matter enough in my book, though this is small.
And... Poke-body = Poke-Body = PokeBody = Poke~Body = Poke^Body = Whatever... why does this matter? There is no 'set' way to do it so as long as you can understand what it is then it's fine.

Remove is a grammatical error. I stated in my rubric that grammatical errors would give one a loss of points.


There, I've went through and have shown exactly what we are talking about. If you would still like help on the subject PM me and I'd be glad to help you.

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[Godzfirefly]

Ok, QwaChansey...that's just ridiculous...we've tried offering assistance in making sure that your grading system is fair and you flat out refused. Then, you try to counter logical arguments and reasonable suggestions with things like "20 damage when doing 20 to itself strikes me as insane" or "I always consider suicide attacks terrible. It's probably because I love Chansey and hate to see it hurt itself." Using personal opinions to try and trump logical points is foolishness and should not be accepted in a judge of any type. Such bias is unreasonable. (And the suggestion that either Meditite Rox or I are 'whining because of our low scores' is even more ridiculous.)

For these reasons and those already presented by others, I will join Greenzangoose and Meditite Rox in removing myself from this contest.

 

[meditite rox]

"20 damage when doing 20 to itself strikes me as insane. Why in the world would you use that? I simply don't think that makes sense."

Not if it evolved from Happiny... -_-'