Miscut double sided holo card
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crazypokemon
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Well hopefully soon ill get another trophy card and hopes it will be equal or better than the ssb trophy.
But it does not matter how i post the fact is you guys devalue thing i own, if someone else owned it it would be praised.
Just like what waynegg did.
SSB all praised for soon as i get one waynegg post its worthless and has no value or meaning.
But it does not matter how i post the fact is you guys devalue thing i own, if someone else owned it it would be praised.
Just like what waynegg did.
SSB all praised for soon as i get one waynegg post its worthless and has no value or meaning.
Reina Sierpe
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So, now that the subject of crazy's personal habits has been thoroughly exhausted, perhaps we can get back to the topic at hand? Because I really am interested in these things and would like to establish some facts about them.
Scott quoted this from the original thread a while back:
"Looks like miscuts from sheets.
Don't recall using them as decorations, but that does not mean we didn't.
I've seen lots of them, but they're usually destroyed. Sometimes I' would eat a bowl of them for breakfast (They get soggy fast though).
Hope this helps."
Was he being serious about them usually being destroyed? That seems like a pretty important detail if he was.
Scott quoted this from the original thread a while back:
"Looks like miscuts from sheets.
Don't recall using them as decorations, but that does not mean we didn't.
I've seen lots of them, but they're usually destroyed. Sometimes I' would eat a bowl of them for breakfast (They get soggy fast though).
Hope this helps."
Was he being serious about them usually being destroyed? That seems like a pretty important detail if he was.
As posted in the other thread, Mike speaks in riddles. When he would present the Pre-raichu cards to people he would literally show them while simultaneously saying they don't exist. So it is difficult to decipher exactly what he is implying.
What was also said in the original thread is that there is a good possibility a bulk amount are just sitting somewhere. I can back that up with the knowledge I have of numerous test sheets that are sitting in the possession of two guys who either worked for WOTC or did something related.
Also a lot of decoration sits like this. My friend who worked at a gamestop in the mall would always give me promotional left overs. I think it was similar in that there were leftovers which could of been pitched but I am sure there are plenty still out there!
What was also said in the original thread is that there is a good possibility a bulk amount are just sitting somewhere. I can back that up with the knowledge I have of numerous test sheets that are sitting in the possession of two guys who either worked for WOTC or did something related.
Also a lot of decoration sits like this. My friend who worked at a gamestop in the mall would always give me promotional left overs. I think it was similar in that there were leftovers which could of been pitched but I am sure there are plenty still out there!
crazypokemon
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yes reina DMTM said that but if you notice he also said he is not sure if they used them as decorations or not.
So how can you be not sure and still say a thousand was made.
He says not sure about decoration cards.
says a certain number was made
but also said they were destroyed.
How can you say something is destoryed and a certain number was made if your not even sure if it was a decoration or not.
Again DMTM is not giving us everything.
So how can you be not sure and still say a thousand was made.
He says not sure about decoration cards.
says a certain number was made
but also said they were destroyed.
How can you say something is destoryed and a certain number was made if your not even sure if it was a decoration or not.
Again DMTM is not giving us everything.
if the cards were displayed at the event it prob went like this---- the person running the event boxed them up at the end of the event. a few were given out to kids or rare people that collect things asking for one. somehow some leaked out the others were either boxed up and trashed or are sitting in someones storage, sold at yard sales, or just ramdomly got misplaced. thats usually what happens to things like this. i would say back then the cards were not worth anything to anyone so they probably got trashed thats why they are valued more than some random lv x card.
No.
No one said that.
They were decorations. Possibly.
Not prizes.
Not promo cards.
They were not given out to anyone, nor were meant to be given out to anyone.
I was at this STS. I don't even remember seeing these cards.
Looking back over the original topic, I see that when I spoke to DMTM he did not confirm that these were decorations. He was not aware of them.
So, I don't really know what these are.
What about the quote from the original thread about these cards:
"Looks like miscuts from sheets.
Don't recall using them as decorations, but that does not mean we didn't.
I've seen lots of them, but they're usually destroyed. Sometimes I' would eat a bowl of them for breakfast (They get soggy fast though).
Hope this helps."
Is he suggesting they are cut from a rocket sheet? That is something I have seen before. There is a french seller who did that to a french base set sheet.
"Looks like miscuts from sheets.
Don't recall using them as decorations, but that does not mean we didn't.
I've seen lots of them, but they're usually destroyed. Sometimes I' would eat a bowl of them for breakfast (They get soggy fast though).
Hope this helps."
Is he suggesting they are cut from a rocket sheet? That is something I have seen before. There is a french seller who did that to a french base set sheet.
Reina Sierpe
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I see, so it's hard to tell on that point. My thought would have been that they would be destroyed, even though they aren't "real" cards. The fact that they are made from real cards and were produced legitimately by pokemon for an event seems like it would warrant it, for the same reasons they would destroy other cards that weren't meant to be released.
Edit: You all ninja'd me. So now it isn't clear whether they were actually produced by pokemon officially for an event? Where did the notion of decorations even come from?
Edit: You all ninja'd me. So now it isn't clear whether they were actually produced by pokemon officially for an event? Where did the notion of decorations even come from?
crazypokemon
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ok pokepop was there he does not know anything
DMTM does not even know about these cards. (He should whether he was there or not cuz he was the main wotc guy)
Waynegg said pojo did an article on them, when i emailed the pojos website they knew nothing.
Pojo had no clue what i was talking about.
Can anyone find the pojo article and post it up, did pojo make article magazines like beckett if so can someone scan it and upload it so we can see. or if the article is online can we get alink please.
Because the 3 top names such as pokepop,pojo and DMTM know just as much as any of us do.
I would expect one of these 3 to know more than they do.
Now what we should do is back step the traces of time and find what these cards are all about.
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Yes but you are forgetting these are a double sided sheet, its not like there is a blue back to it.
The back is also the fronts of other cards with a rainbow like gloss to it.
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I think pokepop first used "decorations" it was first used in the original thread.
But the cards are real because it has the same rockets holo pattern that cannot be faked.
So the cards are real made by the makers of pokemon.
DMTM does not even know about these cards. (He should whether he was there or not cuz he was the main wotc guy)
Waynegg said pojo did an article on them, when i emailed the pojos website they knew nothing.
Pojo had no clue what i was talking about.
Can anyone find the pojo article and post it up, did pojo make article magazines like beckett if so can someone scan it and upload it so we can see. or if the article is online can we get alink please.
Because the 3 top names such as pokepop,pojo and DMTM know just as much as any of us do.
I would expect one of these 3 to know more than they do.
Now what we should do is back step the traces of time and find what these cards are all about.
---------- Post added 06/08/2011 at 09:59 PM ----------
Yes but you are forgetting these are a double sided sheet, its not like there is a blue back to it.
The back is also the fronts of other cards with a rainbow like gloss to it.
---------- Post added 06/08/2011 at 10:01 PM ----------
I think pokepop first used "decorations" it was first used in the original thread.
But the cards are real because it has the same rockets holo pattern that cannot be faked.
So the cards are real made by the makers of pokemon.
I think he acknowledged that. I think what he is saying is that they are miscuts from sheets. Perhaps leftovers, I am not sure. Like I said in my previous post, they remind me of the french seller who has the base set cards that look like they were cut from sheets!
But this is just my observation. Someone who has more information should help out if they could.
But this is just my observation. Someone who has more information should help out if they could.
Reina Sierpe
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I don't mean that they are counterfeit when I say they aren't "real" cards, I mean they were produced by pokemon but not as cards the way we normally define them (released as part of a set, promo, or misprint). It occured to me too that they might have just been purposefully cut that way by someone, but like crazy said it doesn't explain the fact that they're double-sided.
At this point, Scott is probably right that we need someone with more knowledge to clear this up!
At this point, Scott is probably right that we need someone with more knowledge to clear this up!
I like Pojo.
I know Pojo.
He would be the first to admit that he is not an expert on any of this kind of thing.
DMTM had his area of responsibility.
Decorations for an event was not one of those areas.
I'd appreciate it if you would stop disrespecting him like you have in many of your posts.
You don't know him.
You don't know what he has done for this game, or for this website, for that matter.
crazypokemon
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Well waynegg said pojo did an article then pojo should at least know he did the article, when i brought it up to him it was the first to his knowledge because of me.
He never seen or heard about it or aknowledge it until i said something.
he should at least still know the article he made.
As for DMTM he should have known about these cards because that was his area that he worked with.
Even if he dident deal with decorations for the event he still dealt with the cards, the fact it was cards he should have knowledge about them.
And im not disrespecting him im giving my opinion about the situation.
he was the go to guy about knowledge of cards and he doesent even know so something aint right.
He never seen or heard about it or aknowledge it until i said something.
he should at least still know the article he made.
As for DMTM he should have known about these cards because that was his area that he worked with.
Even if he dident deal with decorations for the event he still dealt with the cards, the fact it was cards he should have knowledge about them.
And im not disrespecting him im giving my opinion about the situation.
he was the go to guy about knowledge of cards and he doesent even know so something aint right.
grassmaster239
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I doubt he does, but I enjoy that magazine very much. Particularly the centerfold..
Keeping on topic, I would say the card is worth what people are willing to pay.
crazypokemon
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Im trying to find the article online but no luck.If anyone finds a link please post it.
Was the article a magazine or an online article?
Was the article a magazine or an online article?
I told you all - we didn't have the facts!
Also, can people stop quoting 1000 of these in existence as fact? Pokepop said thousands. Plural. DMTM appeared to say hundreds. I think that the best anyone can say is that actually loads of these turned up but no one knows where most of them are
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I apologise for the tone of my post in advance because this post was just...
How rude can you possibly be? Do you even know what DMTM's role was at WotC? Pokepop said he was head of customer support. What on earth does that have to do with how a STS was organised? What does that have to do with knowing how many of these cards were used as decorations?
DMTM knows a huge, HUGE amount about Pokemon. Not because that was his job - he was in charge of customer support. He needs to know WHO can answer queries, and resolve issues to make everyone happy.
His passion for the game was a huge benefit for us. Was DMTM the person who organised those chats? Those were AMAZING to get an insight into the game. He shares info with us that noone else does. He helped develop the precursor to the very site you've been rude to him about. And he was just an all round awesome guy. I'm sure it was him at WotC who I emailed when I was 15 or so saying I needed better access to cards, and he responded back saying one day you'll have a great collection, keep supporting the game.
Just like I told everyone else about the cards, you crazy need to get your facts straight. And you also need to stop being plain rude when someone doesn't have the answers you wanted them to have.
Just wow...
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