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I heard rumors that the next modified format will be Hidden Legends-on. Is this really true? It'll really be a sucker if most cards'll be not legal like Team Magma and Aqua , Blaziken and all other good stuffs....
 
No one knows and no one cares (yet) since we're focused on whats going on at the moment.
 
I'm all for a fresh and new experience when I play the next Modified format. Part of the fun of the format is when sets or cards are rotated out.

However that's quite a long time away and we still have one or two more sets that will spice up the current format.
 
*shrugs* The same complaints are made EVERY time the format is rotated...

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it till it happens...there's still a whole lot of OP to come in THIS format.

'mom
 
That is what made PKMN diff. from other card games like Magic though, now that the old cards have been rotated out and we have the ADV cards and up i think it should stay that way, if we keep rotating we will never get many more fans, since kids won't know what they can play with.

While there is competition, the difference between PKMN and Magic is anyone can come and play PKMN, if we keep rotating out cards many people would not be able to. In any case atleast Magic has a "classic" series" that is almost never rotated until a new "classic" comes out, which can include a lot of reprints.
 
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If you must guess look at our past two rotations. When Pokemon Organized Play first started we cut off Neo Genesis through Legendary leaving Expedition: Base Set filled with core Trainers and Energies. Then we cut off Expedition through Skyridge which started EX: Ruby and Sapphire another set with core Trainers and Energies. So with this pattern in mind I would believe that EX: FireRed and LeafGreen will be the next rotation starting set.

However now is not the time to worry about such things as the future is unclear to us all. You should focus on to your goals in the present.
 
*looks at watch* It is time for another one of these topics already?
 
I'm not worried about losing cards, I'm looking forward to seeing some of them go. I just really hope HL gets rotated out...... that rock is evil I tell you, evil.
 
SD PokéMom said:
*shrugs* The same complaints are made EVERY time the format is rotated...

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it till it happens...there's still a whole lot of OP to come in THIS format.

'mom
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Especially when an archetype like Feraligatr or Blaziken where the strength of the deck is the only thing that made some players competitive.
 
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That is what made PKMN diff. from other card games like Magic though, now that the old cards have been rotated out and we have the ADV cards and up i think it should stay that way, if we keep rotating we will never get many more fans, since kids won't know what they can play with.

While there is competition, the difference between PKMN and Magic is anyone can come and play PKMN, if we keep rotating out cards many people would not be able to. In any case atleast Magic has a "classic" series" that is almost never rotated until a new "classic" comes out, which can include a lot of reprints.
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Magic and Pokemon both have set rotation. ^^;

Pokemon should have a kind of "Core Set" though - that's what Legendary Collection was meant to be, but LC2 got cancelled.
 
sdp said:
That is what made PKMN diff. from other card games like Magic though, now that the old cards have been rotated out and we have the ADV cards and up i think it should stay that way, if we keep rotating we will never get many more fans, since kids won't know what they can play with.

While there is competition, the difference between PKMN and Magic is anyone can come and play PKMN, if we keep rotating out cards many people would not be able to. In any case atleast Magic has a "classic" series" that is almost never rotated until a new "classic" comes out, which can include a lot of reprints.
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The MTG "Classic Series" you're talking about are their Core Sets... they release new rulings and card texts in them, and those sets are ALWAYS made entirely of reprints. Magic also has the Type 1 format, exactaly like our Unlimited, and then they have Extended, woulc would be like Neon Modified for us.


Set rotation is just a fact for any long living TCG. Why bother buying the new sets if your old deck wins tournaments still? It also forces creativity into the game, because players have to build new decks every rotation. IMHO, it's a gigantic plus to the game.

I'm all for a yearly Base Set release though, maybe even with alternate art by some outside artists... I'd love to see what the art team of Interactive Imagination could do with Pokemon.
 
BJJ763 said:
*looks at watch* It is time for another one of these topics already?
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ROTFLMAO...
GOOD ONE THAT IS GREAT...
I mean can we actually go like 3 weeks with out one of these topics... this should go under the area of reviving dead topics... cause it is soooooo repeatitive... I mean OMG WHAT WILL WE DO WITH OUT BEX AND BLAZE AND TM DECKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT?? Hmmm... Maybe find new creative ways to win... I mean comon half the fun of the game is getting new cards and build decks that were not before powerful before a format change what ever it was... I mean who cards about the format changes i just cant stand people keep talking about this every single week...
Drew
 
Here's my thoughts on everything.

Everytime a set has rotated out, its normally after two core sets have come out.

i.e. Rocket on was the first rotation. The Base sets were Base and Neo: genesis.

Next was Gym Challenge and down out after the release of EX.

Next was roation out of all EX-down after the release of RS.

So, what does this lead me to eliminate?

I say our next format will be TMTA-on, following the path former roations have taken.

The rotation after that will be to FRLG-on, even though this is quite far into the future.

There's my two cents worth. Take it or leave it.
 
If by "creativity" you mean everyone playing the new archetype then you are correct, rotating sets will alienate a lot of the new players and the card game will die, PKMN attracts a lot of kids players, if they realize they can't play with the cards they have they'll move on. The fact that it ever got so popular was that it was easy to play, PKMN will never have the hardcore following Magic players have, if it looses parts of its main appeal people won't look too much into it,
 
While this does indeed remove a lot of deck cards, it allows new people to join the game. If Pokemon stayed an Unlimited game (no modified formats), imagine how hard it would be for newcomers to obtain those broken cards from Base Set/BS2.
 
Well, NOT rotating sets = no new decks created = no new cards sold = OP dies without the $ from sales to fund it...

Don't forget, the Pokémon TCG is first and foremost a business; to have OP they need to make money...and the way for them to do that is to sell cards. Same as with WotC and M:tG: set rotation = card sales...

JMHO,
'mom
 
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If by "creativity" you mean everyone playing the new archetype then you are correct, rotating sets will alienate a lot of the new players and the card game will die, PKMN attracts a lot of kids players, if they realize they can't play with the cards they have they'll move on. The fact that it ever got so popular was that it was easy to play, PKMN will never have the hardcore following Magic players have, if it looses parts of its main appeal people won't look too much into it,
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Don't you mean older players? There's no way a format rotation could harm a new player, since they have the latest cards.

We've actually rotated Modified three times now and tournaments have seen higher numbers since then. I don't see everyone leaving the game... only the inactive players. No harm there if they are not contributing to the game itself.

I would have to say, with Pokemon USA and Pokemon Organized Play, we already have the hiarchy of events like Magic. It's safe to say that there are hardcore followers. Perhaps you just haven't been in the loop or attended an event lately. Modified certainly doesn't affect the hardcore players.
 
It'll be pretty hard on the budget if they'll change the format. You'll start building your deck again and it'll cost another fortune again. The least they can do is remove cards that kill the metagame like Steven's Advice and ATM Rock.
 
sdp said:
If by "creativity" you mean everyone playing the new archetype then you are correct, rotating sets will alienate a lot of the new players and the card game will die, PKMN attracts a lot of kids players, if they realize they can't play with the cards they have they'll move on. The fact that it ever got so popular was that it was easy to play, PKMN will never have the hardcore following Magic players have, if it looses parts of its main appeal people won't look too much into it,
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Never have the hardcore following Magic has?

You do realise that Magic CREATED set block rotation?
 
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There are four very solid reasons to rotate the format. They're not all well liked, but they're very true. Listed in no particular order of importance:

1) Money
PUI is a business. The Seattle office's primairy resason for existance is to sell cards. Rotating the format ensures that players that want to remain active in the game continue to buy the most recent expansion. Look at it this way, all of the money that PUI makes on an expansion is in the first month or so after its release (I can expand on this if it doesn't make sense to you).

2) Accessibility
As time goes on, it becomes harder and harder to find cards from older sets. Games grow stagnant without new players entering the fold. It becomes increasingly difficult to attract those players when they have to buy sets that are 2+ years old to have a shot at being competative. Do you really expect us to tell a new player that he needs to shell out $500 to pick up the singles that he needs to build a deck because a chunk of the cards come from sets that have been out of print for 3 years?

3) Balance
Every time cards are added to an environment the chance that an unbalancing combo will be created increases exponentially. By removing older cards from the environment, you can reduce the number of these combos that exist. For a good example of this, try playing a little Unlimited.

4) Creativity
Cycling cards requires players to rethink deck construction. The game stagnates when players auto-add the same cards to their deck because they feel they can't win without them (Rare Candy, Pidgeot, etc). By removing cards from the environment, players' deck building skills are constantly tested. Do you really want to keep playing a game where you never have to rethink your strategy?
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