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Discussion in 'Deck Help and Strategy' started by xgearsx, Nov 1, 2007.

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  1. xgearsx

    xgearsx New Member

    3-2-3 Nidoking (sw)
    4-3-4 Nidoqueen (mt)

    4 roseanas
    4 prof oak visit
    2 mentor
    1 copycat
    4 rare candy
    4 pluspower
    3 windstorm
    2 TDS
    1 night maintence

    16 psychic

    its a pretty basic list for now im gonna play with the trainers abit but its pretty much a beat down with nidoking and queen as the main attackers
     
  2. eriknance

    eriknance New Member

    You're going to want to put in a complete strategy here or you'll post will get locked.

    A few considerations. First, you're probably going to want to drop the amount of Basic-grabbing Supporters you have, as six is quite a bit. Look into adding more draw power instead (Steven's Advice is a good idea since Nidoqueen basically begs your opponent to drop a large bench). Second, you should consider using some Double Rainbow Energy or Scramble Energy to get things moving a bit faster and to keep hitting hard. Last, you're taking up a lot of space with the PlusPowers and TSD/Night MainteNance that could be used for more draw support. I would suggest dropping a few of each to get in more support. Perhaps alter the energy line to fit this as well.
     
  3. i like nachos

    i like nachos New Member

    -1 Nidoqueen MT
    +1 Nidoqueen Delta
     
  4. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    put in a stratagy before it gets locked

    Also take out 2 queen Mt and make them delta. Also take out 2 mentor s and 2 other cards and put in 4 mentors.
     
  5. master of puppets

    master of puppets New Member

    def. put in 1-2 delta queen
    -4/5 psy
    +4/5 double rainbow/scramble

    -2 plus power or NM TSD
    +2 phobies stadium.

    play a nidoran male, rare candy into king, free retreat, attach a DRE, and with 2 queen out your doin 50-170 out of nowhere.
     
  6. xgearsx

    xgearsx New Member

    cant get into much more strategy then that :nonono:
     
  7. L00p_H01eS

    L00p_H01eS New Member

    take out 2 mentors and 2 other cards and put in 4 mentors... LOL
     
  8. GodTrainer

    GodTrainer Member

    For supporters I like the looks of this lineup (at least on paper)

    4 oaks visit
    3 Rosans Research
    4 Celios Network
    3 Team Galaticas Wager

    OR

    4 Stevens (big bench via nidoqueen)
    3 Mentor (lowers hand count for stevens)
    3 Bebe's search (lowers hand count over celios, for stevens)
    3 Copy Cat (play your hand down, copy theirs)


    I am totally unsure in this new environment which is better as a GENERAL recomendation

    Stevens >? Oaks Visit
    Rosans Research >? Mentor

    o yeah and if you go with mentor, go with 1 Holons castaway
     
  9. Rai

    Rai <a href="http://pokegym.net/forums/showpost.php?p=

    I'm fond of Roseanne's in decks that already search for basics (Why, hello there, Nidoqueen) but need some help finding their energy.

    Nidoqueen WITHOUT Dusknoir is fine with Steven's Advice blended with Oak's Visit. WITH Dusknoir, you need all Oak's visit and no Steven's. But since you're using the first option there, go ahead with Steven's.

    Just don't go out of your way to lower your hand size. Either let your opponent do it for you, or just play everything THEN Steven's. Seriously. Don't use Bebe's over Celio's. Bad. Bad. Bad.

    You very much ought to slip in either Warp Point or Phoebe's Stadium. Very much so. Phoebe's is a bit higher recommended (as it eliminates Battle Frontiers without needing to waste a Windstorm).
     
  10. xgearsx

    xgearsx New Member

    the only thing about phoebes stadium right now is breloom.... so I think warp point would probly be a better option
     
  11. Blaziken 1111

    Blaziken 1111 Active Member

    Thanks for catching my mistake.

    Take out 2 mentors and 2 other cards and put in 4 celio
     
  12. lolganium

    lolganium New Member

    i'm really exited about the new king/queen thing. i'm thinking:

    4-2-3/2 (3mt/2d) queen

    4-2-2/2 (2mt/2d) king

    this might give a really good variety for the deck, i like this new deck.
     
  13. vanderbilt_grad

    vanderbilt_grad New Member

    We will just have to see how played Breloom is. I like Phoebe's overall better but if the 'loom starts seeing a lot of play, even as a tech, then yeah....
     
  14. tc19930815

    tc19930815 New Member

    perhaps +1 nidoqueen d and -1 nidoqueen MT
     
  15. NidoPrince

    NidoPrince New Member

    You gotta have at least one of each Delta Version of each. 'Queen is your searcher, and King snipes nicely after you've hit for quite a bit with his purple counterpart....
     
  16. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    Needs stantler SW, and 1 DF Queen
     
  17. votalesin

    votalesin New Member

    Tons of fixes in here, need a new decklist almost. I have something similar to this going as a secondary deck, I however chose to use Dusknoir for now. Nidoqueen's need 3 to attack, Nidoking (SW) needs 2, and everything else can get by with 1 or none. For this reason, your energy count can get low and still be okay. 1 Queen delta is all you really need, your setup can go on without it, it will however help you quite a bit.

    4 Nidoran girl MT
    3 Nidorina MT
    3 Nidoqueen MT
    1 Nidoqueen DF

    3 Nidoran boy SW
    2 Nidorino (There are 2 available, one can do 50, one can do 40. They cost the same, personal pref)
    2 Nidoking SW
    1 Nidoking DF

    With your prefered starter knowing Call for Family, Mentor may be overrated. With the split energy costs between dark and psychic, recommendation is Roseanne's Research. Celio's due to the lack of EX's, 2 Night Maintenance, in case something you need gets sniped. Oak's visit for a zero loss draw. Rare candy is a no brainer. Phoebe's Stadium, and 1-2 Scott to get them from the deck.

    4 Roseanne's Research
    4 Prof. Oak's visit
    3 Celio's Network
    4 Rare Candy
    2 Phoebe's Stadium
    2 Scott
    2 Night Maintenance

    This is 39 cards so far. Theoretically the only dark energy you will actually need is for Nidoking Delta, so run 4 multi and maybe 10 psychic.

    Total deck is 53 cards on this list. Fill with trainers and techs that suit your metagame and playing style. Good luck!
     
  18. What needs to fear this deck? or why would one not use it?
     
  19. Skarmbliss

    Skarmbliss New Member

    i saw someone running a 3-1 chingling-chimecho deck and it seemed to run pretty smoothly. Also you might want to add 1 queen DF to get the consistency going with invitation.
     
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