Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

My rant about gaming stores.

Team Cook

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Listen up all my PokeKiddies, that's right, all of you are my PokeKiddies.

I got a rant, a BIG rant.

Why is it that gaming stores never have any Pokemon posters on the walls, Pokemon displays, heck, ANYTHING Pokemon. All I ever see is Magic the Gathering bla bla bla, sporting junk bla bla bla, comic books, boxes and boxes of comic books that I NEVER see anyone buying, Yu-G-Oh or however you spell it bla bla bla, NEVER ANY POKEMON.

Pokemon Nation, stand up and be heard. We need Pokemon stuff in these stores. How are we ever going to be taken seriously?

I see some great pictures of tournaments but in the back ground all I see is other gaming advertisement. Sad, just sad.

Pokemon Nation, stand up, demand Pokemon, lol.

2009 goal, SPREAD THE LOVE FOR POKEMON in the gaming stores.
 
As a Pokemon fan, you should know how Pokemon is thought of by those who aren't totally familiar with the game and concept. It's viewed as a kiddy game. A game that 5-8 year olds play. They know nothing of premier tournaments such as City, State, Region, etc. tournaments. They don't know that at about every tournament, the Masters age group is higher in player number than any other age group. At game stores, games accepted by the majority of people and age groups are displayed, because they're considered as popular. No offense to Pokemon, but that's just the way it's been. It sometimes varies with region, but it's that way with a lot of places.
 
There are stores in my area who hold Pokemon tournaments, yet they have no way of advertising, save for the OP site and their own sites (which nobody really looks at). We did have one Store that kinda advertised events, but it went out of business recently. It shows that they really don't care for Pokemon, and they look agitated when they decide to let Pokemon events occur in their stores. It's really about money.
 
As a Pokemon fan, you should know how Pokemon is thought of by those who aren't totally familiar with the game and concept. It's viewed as a kiddy game. A game that 5-8 year olds play. They know nothing of premier tournaments such as City, State, Region, etc. tournaments. They don't know that at about every tournament, the Masters age group is higher in player number than any other age group. At game stores, games accepted by the majority of people and age groups are displayed, because they're considered as popular. No offense to Pokemon, but that's just the way it's been. It sometimes varies with region, but it's that way with a lot of places.

This is why we, as the Pokemon Nation, need to get the word out. We need to show these stores that it's not the little kiddy game they think it is.

We need to find a way to tell these gaming stores that Pokemon is a great family game. we have a lot of moms, dads, brothers, & sisters playing.

Look, I like the gaming stores in my area, I just want to see more Pokemon related items, anything Pokemon.
 
My local game shop that i used to go to the most had a huge Pokemon Wolrlds Qualifier (said something like that) banner hanging from the ceiling with Gengar on it.
 
This is why we, as the Pokemon Nation, need to get the word out. We need to show these stores that it's not the little kiddy game they think it is.

We need to find a way to tell these gaming stores that Pokemon is a great family game. we have a lot of moms, dads, brothers, & sisters playing.

Look, I like the gaming stores in my area, I just want to see more Pokemon related items, anything Pokemon.

Every day, you have the fans doing a great deal to show that this TCG is far from a kiddy game (yourself, myself, and several others included), but unfortunately, the brand label simply isn't trying hard enough.

"Pokemon 151" was a refreshing attempt to appeal to a mature audience, but if I recall correctly, that's the _only_ time that Pokemon has tried to appeal directly to older people (or should I say people not under 13). Just remember that there's only so much we can do - it's ultimately TPC's responsibility to make its brand look good.
 
I've also heard rumors that PTCG is "not profitable" for gaming stores. At least, compared to other games out there. I don't know exactly how "not profitable" PTCG actually is, though. I don't have access to all the financial information that I'd need to make that estimation.

And, I agree with Cyrus on this at least. The Pokemon franchise has been almost completely marketed towards the younger age groups. While I generally don't have a problem with "hook[ing] em while they're young" (Carlin, Dogma), there comes a point where a balance has to be struck between gaining new fans and keeping or regaining old fans. The United States and International (outside Japan) hasn't really recovered from the screw job we received at the end of the WOTC era. There are still plenty of people who played during the Rocket On and Neon eras that are jaded by the entire process and need both an incentive to start playing again as well as the knowledge that, yes, the Pokemon franchise is back and stronger than ever. In fact, we never really left.

The fact that Pokemon has retained about 30% growt over the last 4 US Nationals is a very good thing to see. And now with the move away from Origins to our own venue, I expect that trend to continue. Still, it'd be nice to see more of a focus on all of the aspects of the Pokemon franchise. I call the franchise one of three "Pillars", to borrow a term from Nintendo. The Video Games, the Trading Card Game, and the Anime. Admittedly, the anime is really nothing more than a vehicle for promotion for the younger age groups. While I'd like to see something a little bit more adult-oriented coming out of a television show, I have severe doubts that it'd actually happen. Thus, it's up to the Video Games and the Trading Card Game to hold up for two purposes. First, they must maintain the loyalty of those that have been hooked while young (or not so young). Second, they must find some way of marketing to those that have not been introduced to either.

The Trading Card Game has been remarkably successful at maintaining its audience since PUI took over distribution from WOTC. A spectacular tournament schedule coupled with a staff that actually care about their players (imagine that) has kept people interested in the game. However, it has not (in my opinion) been particularly successful at generating new interest in the brand, or in regaining the interest from old players who quit over the WOTC hassles. The advertisements have been remarkably bland for discerning minds, and I see no reason that people would start playing just because of the rather lackluster advertisements for the game in the area. What I suggest is a focus on the players of the game, rather than a focus on the cards themselves. A series of 30-second mockumentary advertisements following a semicompetitive player would go a long way in regaining the players that a game store would want to have.

The Video Games have been, well, a little bit less successful. A quick search of VG Chartz, admittedly not the most reliable source in the world but good enough for these purposes, shows that the sales of Pokemon video games has been trending downward since the release of the original RBY games. Yes, DP has generated higher sales than RS games. That I believe is largely attributable to the more recent success of the TCG than to anything that Pokemon has done over the last 6 years. DP are easily the best games in the Pokemon franchise, but that's not saying much. The simple fact is that the RBY series was an evolutionary leap forward for RPGs at the time. No other game had attempted such a massive undertaking into depth of strategy and depth of gameplay. The problem is that the innovations have largely stoppped or reverted since the GS series. The story is stagnant where there is a wealth of depth and opportunity to create something truly unique. The gameplay, though incredibly deep and diverse, is rather unbalanced towards a few creatures, and nobody really pays any attention to the "lower tiers" of the Pokemon universe ("Mommy? What's a Dugtrio?"). DP was a step in the right direction, utilizing a villian who has startling depth of character, reasons behind his actions, and actually succeeds for a moment on the grandest stage of all before being finally defeated. I haven't read the script for Platinum, but from what I've heard, it's a far deeper story and expands a lot more on what exactly the main villian is attempting to accomplish. As far as RPGs are concerned, the story is the center of the action. Look at all of the "best" RPGs in the history of gaming. All of them have had remarkably deep stories for their times, and each has built something from the tale before it, whether it be some form of character development, a bigger twist, a greater emphasis on the world, or whatever. Pokemon hasn't seen that progression. I'd like to see a good storyline in a Pokemon video game, one that will leave players saying, "I want to play that again. There might have been some nuance I missed!" rather than saying, "Let's rush this game so that I can get to the good parts." The former is indicative of a legendary game. The latter is indicative of an obsessive personality more than anything else. Shadows of Almia was actually a pretty decent step in my opinion. Though the story was rather simplistic, there was more than enough character and world generating to make up for that weak story.

There has to be a balance struck between the initial marketing and the continued marketing of a franchise. Right now, I think that Pokemon is stuck in the initial marketing phase, and it needs to better understand how to generate positive thoughts from across the spectrum, rather than just from its target audience. Because if you're only targeting a very specific audience, that audience might at some point decide to just up and leave for something that they perceive to be better for that audience, or that has a wider range. Give Pokemon a wider audience range, and you'll see this franchise grow beyond anything you might have imagined before.
 
I know what you mean about stores advirtising Magic. I go to a store where the owner prefers Mahic so one day whaen I walk in there Are GIGANTIC, HUGE posters and other Magic stuff. The store that I went to was in Memphis where the Magic World Championships were held. I wish that the World Magic Tournament wasn't held in Memphis.
 
I hear ya, Team Cook. I'm not a store owner but I think if the store sells Pokemon cards don't they get a poster now and then from their distributor? If the store runs a league then they get league posters. Local league players should insist on having some Pokemon posters displayed! or at least have a little decal on the front door saying "pokemon sold here." I've seen a few stores that have on display a huge banner that came from Pokemon Nats or Worlds, donated to the store by a local PTO who brought it back with them. We donated a pokemon beach ball to the pizza shop we used to hold league at. They had beach balls hanging from their ceiling. Sometimes it takes a Pokemon player to suggest to the store owner to display Pokemon items. Pass the Pokemon love as you say.

How's this?:
potential pokemon customer to store owner: "Do you sell Pokemon cards?"
Shop owner, "yes we do."
Potential customer, "gee, that's great, but how would I know that? I don't see any Pokemon signs or posters."

That might prompt some people.
 
Mike I agree too that I wish more stores would advertise Pokemon.

I know it's been a little while since you've been up this way, but do you remember at Drakes Place all the BIG banners of Pokemon that were on display? There was like 50 foot of Pokemon banners. Now though, Drakes place has gone out of business and I have these banners without a place to display them. I think I've got an idea what to do with them though.
 
After a prerelease i take one of the posters and tape it to the wall. My Friday League at Disposable Heroes in Johnston has several posters up. I also have a wall that i tape the "mini-posters" that my Leaguers do not want ("If you're just going to take it home and throw it away, can i have it and put it on the wall?"). No real posters as i like to keep those (or they get given away as prizes).

Unfortunately my Saturday League at DieHard Games does not have anything up even though i know they were given a bunch of posters.
 
I'd say it depends on the store. I mean, if their primary business is, say, being a comic book store and only holds Pokemon as a sorta fun side thing, obviously you're not going to see Pokemon advertised as much. Yu-Gi-Oh usually also tends to draw more of an older audience than Pokemon, hence why owners might choose to display those posters since their target customers are usually somewhat older (let's face it, who sees kids buying comic books these days? I haven't seen any for a while, lol). As well with that, if they don't even sell TCG/CCG cards at the store, it's more unlikely to probably have even YGO or Pokemon or MTG posters up and/or advertised.
 
Mike: I believe some MTG items like the MTG calender ect are only obtainable if they hold certain events. Like if a store has a Gold Tier Tournament, the store itself gets goodies. There also 3x the amount of MTG events for all the formats they have.

I also believe you win more $ in MTG; $ not Scholarship
Also MTG is older than Pokémon.

If you really wanna see a REAL pokémon fan area come to my house lol

Most of the MTG posters are of the 10th ed set, which is a core set..
Like having a DP poster somewhere i guess.

Mr Mike also is thrilled that some of his players (ya there's more than 1 now lol) use MTG mats during tournaments/ MTG sleeves during Pre Releases
 
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I asked the same thing at all the gaming stores I went to. Here what they said, " No one plays Pokemon and everyone that comes here does not ask about it so we don't do it". I said " well, you advertise Magic, Yugioh, and other games here because you put up like 10 posters for each of them and you don't have a single one for Pokemon, so people don't know. Plus, they are still selling cards from the Base and Fossil sets, which no one buys anyway.
 
@Vaporeon - Give them a picture of US Nationals, or a Regionals or Worlds. Get your PTO to hold a CC or Battle Road there. If they see that it is popular, they'll get new cards.

Pokemon needs to advertise the strategic part of the game, instead of the childish cute portion. Get some commercials on ABC or NBC. Instead of just Cartoonnetwork...
 
my league that i went to 2 years ago
they were having drawing for these like 12 feet posters of dexoys i won 2 lol
 
yeah, all the stores in my area have nothing up to except a tiny spring battle roads poster and a sign saying pokemon league here. No legends awakened or stormfront posters up. Nadda. Pokemon is considered a kiddy game, but the truth is the last 2 citys i went to there were more masters then juniors and seniors combined x2!Insanity!
 
...at least you guys play in a store that actually has Pokemon product...
 
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