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My Theory On Why Worlds Keeps Getting Held In Super Expensive Tourist Traps

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Threes Full Of Tens

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A lot of the POP higher-ups get free rooms and other compensation for traveling to events like nationals, and worlds, what if there was someone/a group of people that could influence where tournoments were to be held? And if I was that person or in that group and I knew I could a free hotel room, and other stuff i would probibly put it in somewhere really nice, somewhere i always wanted to go to, like Cali, Hawii, or Florida. Which is conveniant because thats where worlds is always being held. Thoughts?
 
If that were entirely the case, wouldn't you think the folks from OP would want to travel the world then? You know, like hold it in a different place every year? Japan one year, England the next, etc etc. Honestly, I think they are holding it in some of the better vacation spots in the US, because of that appeal.

Also, as Rokman says, it does make it easier for people from Japan to get to the states. But it's going to be a vacation spot for everyone to enjoy. They don't require people to go every single year. If you can afford it, go. If not, then don't go. I've yet to go to worlds, as I don't look at it as something I should go to every year, but that's just me.
 
Where do people want Pokemon's showpiece event to be held?

Somewhere dull and cheap?

Yay! That would be amazing fun for eveyone! Let's go there!
 
Mama_Luigi said:
So worlds at Charlie Cheese's? I might actually go if they did that.
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uh... Chuckie Cheese is out of my league.

now.. CiCi's Pizza buffet. That's the ticket!!!! :eek:

For real though...

They have Worlds in a place they CAN afford.

Oh yeah.. a place where they can haul TRUCKLOADS of free product for prizes, side event giveaways, and league play giveaways at aTHeir EXPENSE.

Oh yeah, they foot the bill so YOU can attend the event free of charge. You get there, it's free.

Oh yeah... and THEY even pay hotel and airfare for the top contenders to attend WITH their families...

/end thread.
 
Rogue Archetype said:
uh... Chuckie Cheese is out of my league.

now.. CiCi's Pizza buffet. That's the ticket!!!! :eek:

For real though...

They have Worlds in a place they CAN afford.

Oh yeah.. a place where they can haul TRUCKLOADS of free product for prizes, side event giveaways, and league play giveaways at aTHeir EXPENSE.

Oh yeah, they foot the bill so YOU can attend the event free of charge. You get there, it's free.

Oh yeah... and THEY even pay hotel and airfare for the top contenders to attend WITH their families...

/end thread.
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Oh im sorry i forgot that a card game yields massive profit since the materials cost so little.. o wait
 
secretsof2113 said:
If that were entirely the case, wouldn't you think the folks from OP would want to travel the world then? You know, like hold it in a different place every year? Japan one year, England the next, etc etc. Honestly, I think they are holding it in some of the better vacation spots in the US, because of that appeal.

Also, as Rokman says, it does make it easier for people from Japan to get to the states. But it's going to be a vacation spot for everyone to enjoy. They don't require people to go every single year. If you can afford it, go. If not, then don't go. I've yet to go to worlds, as I don't look at it as something I should go to every year, but that's just me.
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Oh yes, so appealing that worlds in Hawaii is always the biggest Worlds-tournament.

And as long as it's easy for the Japanese to get there, yay!! Their attendance is so huge compared to the rest of the world.

And yeah, if you can't afford trips to Hawaii, so be it. Did you really think Pokemon was for everyone? Honestly?

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Rogue Archetype said:
uh... Chuckie Cheese is out of my league.

now.. CiCi's Pizza buffet. That's the ticket!!!! :eek:

For real though...

They have Worlds in a place they CAN afford.

Oh yeah.. a place where they can haul TRUCKLOADS of free product for prizes, side event giveaways, and league play giveaways at aTHeir EXPENSE.

Oh yeah, they foot the bill so YOU can attend the event free of charge. You get there, it's free.

Oh yeah... and THEY even pay hotel and airfare for the top contenders to attend WITH their families...

/end thread.
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Oh yes, as long as they give us stuff for keeping their game alive, they should be able to do whatever they want, without questions asked. Agreed.
 
See though R_A, as much as I agree with many of your points, the "perks" are about the only reason I pay for cards in the first place. It isn't a selfish "me me me" mentality - it's just that if those perks weren't there, I wouldn't even think about buying cards.

Am I happy and grateful that those perks are there? Yes. However, is it POP's responsibility to both promote this game "and" get people to buy more product? Yes.

SO, the question here is: is holding Worlds every other year in Hawaii upholding that responsibility? Well, if it does a better job at boosting sales than holding it in the continental U.S., then yes; otherwise, no. IMO, holding Worlds in Kona over Oahu is a very bad move.
 
Ardoptres said:
Oh yes, as long as they give us stuff for keeping their game alive, they should be able to do whatever they want, without questions asked. Agreed.
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No one is telling folks they can't ask questions, RA just seems to be talking about why they have no complaints about our choosing to hold the event in Hawaii. (RA can correct me if I'm wrong.)

Cyrus said:
SO, the question here is: is holding Worlds every other year in Hawaii upholding that responsibility? Well, if it does a better job at boosting sales than holding it in the continental U.S., then yes; otherwise, no.
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That's not a bad question. :cool:
So based on the fact that we just held an event in Hawaii, and based on the fact that TPCi likes to make a profit at the end of the year (like any company that would like to stay in business) I know what my conclusion would be if I were to ask myself that question. :wink:

Threes Full Of Tens said:
A lot of the POP higher-ups get free rooms and other compensation for traveling to events like nationals, and worlds...
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Other compensation? Hey, I want some other compensation! Why didnt anyone tell me about this?? :tongue:

Seriously though, I'm kinda curious: what compensation do you think the POP higher ups are getting?
 
^IMO: I think a lot of complaints that people have are not really "complaints"- they do not see what TCPi is doing what they are doing and why from the business sence point of view.
I think the "compensation" being mentioned is like when a person who owns a company or is self employed, there are things that can be tax-write off or that there is some agreement between two companies assisting each other to stay in business by offering discounts or other "deals".
If a company does not do things to promote their product or service, will that company be around?
I could personally care less if the person who is hosting an event got some discount or deal- my main concern would be if the person hosted an event worth MY TIME and money spent at the event.

If the company benefited from such a discount or whatever, I would hope and think that the "benefit" would slide more in favor of the customers or consumers.
EXAMPLE:- A Hotel gives a host a discount to use a bigger room for an event if the host says the hotel's name at least 10 times in announcements throuout the day- Bigger room, less complaints from the players that the room is "stuffy, croweded, blah blah blah..."
And as an event holder myself- unhappy players- less attendence later on.

EVERY company makes sacrafices as well. Whether the sacrafice is large scale or small, the company does it in a manner that will later bring in profit vs short-term sales that will sink the companies future.

If any compensation is due to the TPCi employees, it should be gratitude from the players for the hard work they due to even bring a cool game to the public.

Everyone needs to understand that all companies have their "up's and down's"- especailly in the "trend" department.
If people like the game so much, they need to understand they need to adapt to the changes of the company and see that the company caitors to more then just those who have been there from the "beginning"- noobs are everywhere because it is a companies first goal: ALLWAYS LOOK FOR NEW CUSTOMERS- without them- old customers alone wont keep the company in business.

If a person is "getting burned out" with just playing, they have other options like voluntering-

I think there would be less complaints and sarcasm if everyone put themselves in the shoes of the company instead of being a consumer who only sees what is just "in plain view"-

It is one thing to ask questions, it is another to complain- as complaints are statements, questions promote action.
 
I was simply saying that we should expect a promo program and other "free stuff" considering how cost effective trading cards are. We are not privileged with the tournaments and such, such things are expected to keep the game alive. We shouldnt be thanking them at all, they are run by mostly volunteers who get more cards as compensation, making the TCG that more profitable. There are certain things to expect for the game to be profitable. And all this so called "free stuff" is one of them
 
I think it has more to do with Japan players then anything. It is easier for them to get there and they were the ones that created the game. It seems like they are trying for a pattern that somehow pleases everyone at some point in time going back from San Diego and then Hawaii again. I guess we will see if it is true in 2012. San Diego definitely isn't expensive though so you should try to go this year if you can.

They certainly wouldn't be holding it in Hawaii just so they could get a vacation though. It is a company after all and Hawaii is super expensive not just for you but for them and TPCi as a whole.
 
If it is in Hawaii again, I will try to make it trip or no trip.

This was my 1st Worlds ever and it is the sickest tournament I have ever been too. The hotel was amazing and so were all the players; I loved it.

Let them choose where it's held because if it was anything like the Worlds I attended, everyone should be happy.
 
Biggie said:
Other compensation? Hey, I want some other compensation! Why didnt anyone tell me about this?? :tongue:

Seriously though, I'm kinda curious: what compensation do you think the POP higher ups are getting?
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Biggie, you got your big spoon while at worlds, what more compensation do you need then that. :wink:
 
San Diego isn't even expensive. There's motels in the area and $2 hot dogs down the street from the Hilton. Get a little creative, you guys are nuts. Hawaii is expensive. Even walking a mile plus where they've held it in Orlando both times to get a decently priced meal is expensive compared to California (not to mention the disgusting humidity that causes you to be dripping in sweat by the time you get there).
 
Yeah...you can't really compare a major city to the roadside attraction on the highway when you're talking about tourist traps...

Anyways, I'm also agreeing Hawaii is a bit ridiculous, it's expensive for ALL sides to get to, except the people who play Pokemon in Hawaii...oh yeah, there are NONE. San Diego might take a bit more time for Japan to get to, but it's a lot closer for much of the US and Europe to get to. Ditto with Florida to an extent.

That aside though, I think the forgotten aspect of Worlds is that it's supposed to be more exclusive; it's meant for the best players in the world to compete in, not for you or your little friends and every other person in the world to grind into to play. Put it this way, if there were no grinders at all at Worlds, I'm willing to bet attendance would drop quite a bit; there are few people that aren't in groups that are going to pay tons of money just to socialize with other players.
 
Biggie, is there any way that Worlds can ever be held in a location that isn't so outrageously expensive? As it is, only the people who can well afford their kids' education (because if you can afford to drop $5000 to $10000 on a vacation every year, you can) or those who win paid invites are able to go and compete for the scholarships being offered. Something about that just isn't quite right.
 
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