shiftrymaster68
Active Member
So I couldnt write down my prizes in a second language I speak, like French?
I'm not arguing, but that rule would only make sense to me if taking notes was obligatory. If someone wants to keep track of the game for whatever reason, why must the other person see the notes?Mike Liesik was very clear.
We asked a few different questions to be certain.
The upshot is, if you're writing notes, those notes must be clear and understandable to the opponent.
No code.
If you don't want them knowing something, best not to write it down as notes.
So I couldnt write down my prizes in a second language I speak, like French?
Do notes have to be complete to meet the ruling? For example, suppose I have 2 energies, 1 Trainer X, 1 Trainer Y, and 2 Pokemon in my prizes after Time Walk. I could arrange the cards and list just the 2 trainers, and maybe one of the two Pokemon. I can remember the other cards without my notes.
Prizes in order:
Pokemon A
Pokemon B
Energy
Energy
Trainer X
Trainer Y
My Notes:
Prizes: Pokemon A, Trainer X, Trainer Y
Just thinking out of the prize box,
Jeff
I'm not arguing, but that rule would only make sense to me if taking notes was obligatory. If someone wants to keep track of the game for whatever reason, why must the other person see the notes?
But at any rate, don't write something down that will help them; how hard is that?
Excuse me for finding that a bit... ridiculous. Now maybe just MAYBE I can understand the note taking aspect of that, but would you be not allowed to SAY that to your opponent? How about if you tell your opponent that you have a Wager in your hand? Are they going to call the judge over and make them check to see if you actually have the card in your deck or not? How about if your list does run Dusknoir, but that's not the prize? Is the judge going to check your prizes after time walk to see if you're telling the truth on each of them?
I'm not trying to find a loophole to "cheat" at this game, it's pathetically unnecessary. However, checking the integrity of a player's statements in a way that would divulge information to the other player seems kind of... wrong. Clear me up on this.
reviewed doesnt mean understood
Do notes have to be complete to meet the ruling? For example, suppose I have 2 energies, 1 Trainer X, 1 Trainer Y, and 2 Pokemon in my prizes after Time Walk. I could arrange the cards and list just the 2 trainers, and maybe one of the two Pokemon. I can remember the other cards without my notes.
Prizes in order:
Pokemon A
Pokemon B
Energy
Energy
Trainer X
Trainer Y
My Notes:
Prizes: Pokemon A, Trainer X, Trainer Y
Just thinking out of the prize box,
Jeff
Well, it's not my ruling so I can only try to express the thought that has gone into it.
Basically, it is taking the floor rules at face value.
When you make notes, both players get to use them.
If they are not clear or are deceptive, then you are not meeting that requirement.
Finally, PokePop, I choose to reply to your response only because it provided me a convenient seque
to make my point. Really I appreciate your attempts to clarify the ruling and give rroaryh a response.
What I don't appreciate is condescending and accusatory nature of replies that questions like this
inevitably generate.
I don't want to think about how they will handle this one at Worlds! Maybe a copy of the Battle Dictionary at each table?