Old School is back; Rockets Admin, Fossil Aerodactyl and EX's...

[Jason]

^^ Double Rainbow is just more broken than DCE imo.

 

[bullados]

Erik, DCE almost singlehandedly destroyed a format by making a good card the BCIF. How is that NOT unbalanced? IMO, if they make an Upper Energy that was all types, that would be the PERFECT energy for the game. Basically, a 2-energy Scramble.

And the reason that I hate Catcher/GOW is the exact reason that you like it. It's automatic. There is no thinking involved with the card. You choose your KOs. At least with the other cards, there was some thinking involved. Reversal might or might not work. Luxray only worked in specific situations. Double Gust had to be worked around. GOW has zero drawbacks and turns games on their heads.

 

[losjackal]

I'm only familar with DP-on cards. Question: this Aerodactyl ability....it works from the bench? That just seems like a worse kind of lock than even Vileplume.

 

[eriknance]

Erik, DCE almost singlehandedly destroyed a format by making a good card the BCIF. How is that NOT unbalanced? IMO, if they make an Upper Energy that was all types, that would be the PERFECT energy for the game. Basically, a 2-energy Scramble.

And the reason that I hate Catcher/GOW is the exact reason that you like it. It's automatic. There is no thinking involved with the card. You choose your KOs. At least with the other cards, there was some thinking involved. Reversal might or might not work. Luxray only worked in specific situations. Double Gust had to be worked around. GOW has zero drawbacks and turns games on their heads.

But DCE wasn't the unbalanced part -- Garchomp X was (well, more specifically, the format itself). Cards don't exist in a vacuum, they have to interact with a bunch of other cards to prove their usefulness. Right now, there isn't anything remotely like Garchomp X. Garchomp X's attack got around Lost Remover as well, something that can't be said of the Pokemon that can use DCE right now. I'm totally with you in that DCE can become unbalanced, but right now it's fine. (Also, none of the big decks right now even abuse DCE aside from Samurott, so the point remains that DCE's power is relative to the format).

I gave the wrong impression with Catcher, sorry about that. I don't like the card, but I probably like flipping coins for huge game swings even less. Right now my Nats deck has a 50-50 against certain decks, but only because of coin flips on the opponent's side. If my opponent flips tails, I'm like an 80-20. Talking about the Reversal flips in the first few turns of an HGSS-on game can feel like talking about the first turn Kingdra thing when LA Kingdra was released (remember how people would list separate matchups against Kingdra based on whether they got it in play first turn or not?). With Catcher around, I would just scrap my deck altogether and find a different approach.

Also, some sort of Scramble Energy would be awesome right now. :thumb:

 

[StormFront]

Wow! Jirachi's value has suddenly shot way up now that fossil Aerodactly has been effectively reprinted.

 

[PokeMedic]

Fossils coming back? They were all over my last professor exam. I never thought I'd be tested on fossils outside of High School Earth Science.

 

[eriknance]

I'm only familar with DP-on cards. Question: this Aerodactyl ability....it works from the bench? That just seems like a worse kind of lock than even Vileplume.

My prediction is that Archeops's Ability will be altered in some way from Prehistoric Power -- perhaps it only works when Archeops is active, or if you're behind in prizes, or there could be something tricky with the Basic since the idea of this generation's Fossil cards is a bit unclear. Perhaps the Basic has an Ability that states that you cannot play it from hand to bench, but rather from Discard Pile to bench... or something like that.

 

[z-man]

I would take a guess that Aerodactyl's power (if reprinted) would be only while Archeopthingy is active. It would just be insane if it is while it is on the bench. OR they could (with the new fossil rule) make it really hard to get out. I don't know... I really hope it isn't broken. Rocket's Admin gets me excited though. It may be less impactful as this format looks like a heavy draw/shuffle format and when the original Admin came out, that just wasn't the case. None the less, I'm glad that we finally got a judge-like-card that is better than judge. I'm gonna call it now... Steven's Advice will be reprinted in some way sooner or later

 

[treyh37]

yeah catcher is a bit op, it would be balanced if a flip determined who chooses the defending players new active, or the person behind on prizes picks the new active.

archeops stopping evo is interesting as well since the only card that might get around it as an attack would be the beedrill linesince we dont have spiritomb anymore

 

[espeon200]

I really want to see card text before a discussion of Archeops starts. Yes, the Pokemon Power "Prehistoric Power" effectively shut down evolutions back in the day, but just because the Ability has the same name as the Pokemon Power doesn't mean they have the same effect.

Other than that everything here sounds awesome and I look forward to seeing it... in a couple of sets... so probably next year.

 

[Box of Fail]

I thought Pokémon had taken a huge leap in the right direction by removing Pokémon with their own game mechanics (such as ex, *, lv.x, and legend) from the game. I'm very disappointed to see the return of ex's which really added their own dimension to the game.

Rocket's Admin? Aerodactyl? Fossils? I'm happy to see all of those. But the return of the ex dynamic to the game is a huge backtrack on all the progress they seemed to be making (what with BW being completely devoid of "special" Pokémon, aside from the harmless alt art Zekrom/ Reshiram)

I've been eager for a long time to see Cess Crystal reprinted, so I hope that happens (with an additional clause on Abilities of course). I would not be happy seeing Steven's Advice at all though. IMO they should be very sparing in their printing of consistent draw.

If they print anymore Pokémon-based draw (i.e. non Supporter-based draw) I'll be irritated.

 

[InnoceNt]

Does no one know how to read? The old ex's were lowercased. Then new EX's are uppercased. They are different mechanics

I do not, please teach me.

 

[Master Entei]

I have trouble believing that the EX would have the completely same mechanic as ex. Why change the name if they're the same? I remember reading something about the names being a bit more different somehow in Japan. And besides, bringing something like that back? Not something I'd expect from Nintendo/whoever creates the cards these days.

I thought Pokémon had taken a huge leap in the right direction by removing Pokémon with their own game mechanics (such as ex, *, lv.x, and legend) from the game. I'm very disappointed to see the return of ex's which really added their own dimension to the game.

Rocket's Admin? Aerodactyl? Fossils? I'm happy to see all of those. But the return of the ex dynamic to the game is a huge backtrack on all the progress they seemed to be making (what with BW being completely devoid of "special" Pokémon, aside from the harmless alt art Zekrom/ Reshiram)

I've been eager for a long time to see Cess Crystal reprinted, so I hope that happens (with an additional clause on Abilities of course). I would not be happy seeing Steven's Advice at all though. IMO they should be very sparing in their printing of consistent draw.

If they print anymore Pokémon-based draw (i.e. non Supporter-based draw) I'll be irritated.

That's a pretty long post for being a troll.
EDIT Sorry, meant a trollish post. *plays I'm-not-English card*

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[Setstage]

I just hope you don't have to keep getting Secret Rares to make a competitive deck. BW was promising because pulling an ability emboar in a pack was doable, heck it even came in RevHolo. The SRs weren't necessary to make an awesome deck BUT you could put them in to make your deck look cooler.

IMO whatever the new EX mechanic is, they shouldn't be impossible to pull or shouldn't be the best cards in the format.

 

[TheDancingPeanut]

You won't sell much sealed product without chase cards. It's been that way for every trading card set since the early '90s. Remember, OP isn't the cards' largest market.

Also, as a side note, there is no apostrophe used when referring to more than one "EX." An apostrophe would indicate posession in that case, such as:

"That EX's ability is totally broken!" So, "I am so glad EX's are coming back" begs the question "EX's WHAT?" Anyway, here endeth the English lesson. Please stop making my brain explode!

 

[baby mario]

That's a pretty long post for being a troll.

Not a troll.

A gimmick poster.

 

[CFOURCOLTSFAN]

i like them reprinting cool cards but i gotta agree w/ Bullados
DCE reprint will be bad, i'm sure of it they'll make some random guy like GCX that does the same thing but he'll be an EX w/ no weakness.
Also GOW is just awful for the game in general, not really a power spray for that...
sorry but those two reprints kinda sicken me, also Reshiram EX and Zekrom EX, tbh those cards are broken enough, one does 120 t1 consistently and the other hits for 120 easily by t2, and they're basics and they have 130 hp and cards that already work in like perfect synergy w/ them...
All of sudden those cards that we "thought" were broken are looking like almost needed cards to balance the game
Machamp SF(heck maybe he'll be an EX except take out will be for a colorless ;p
etc.
TBH based on the looks of things i think i will be missing MD-CoL format, where it was,yes, mainly SPs, but at least it wasn't catcher every turn and you could make a case that it took skill to win any match up, and it wasn't like you could win a game by just bright looking, you had to do other things, i mean w/ catcher you can win by attacking w/ anything...
i don 't like it...

 

[Patsfan112892]

Not to mention, we're also going to be getting a return of the EX cards. This is shaping up to be a very interesting setup for Pokemon if the various old school mechanics start coming back. I'll cringe if I see double rainbow energy get reprinted. >_<

The same story on pokebeach even says DRE is back
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[baby mario]

It says DCE is back.

Honestly, it is so silly to start panicking over EX Pokemon when we don't even know the mechanic yet, never mind actually seen one

Like . . . every single ex was totally broken, right?

 

[bullados]

It says DCE is back.

Honestly, it is so silly to start panicking over EX Pokemon when we don't even know the mechanic yet, never mind actually seen one

Like . . . every single ex was totally broken, right?

Most of the early ex Pokemon were pretty darn terrible IMO...