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Outside the US - What is left?

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Michel.. Worldwide OP is what we have been focused on. Campaigned for and advocated.

If the delivery of a few promos is too much then what hope for anything that involves more that a single envelope?

That said I remain optomistic that the new team will want to grow OP and have a budget and remit to do so. I will not call PUI liars for failing to deliver on initial promisies. I might wish that they had trusted us more but that is a seperate issue. Priorities change and I do believe that the quote from PUI in my sig was delivered with the best of intentions and in good faith. We may be a skeptical bunch but we cannot be accused of breaking faith. Age and experience bring a certain insight into how companies operate. That isn't the fault of any individual, but just as we don't hold any individual responsible for changes to prorities don't hold us responsible for using thoses insights that we have gained through wisdom and experience in our predictions and expectations of delivery.


Just a detail Michel. But PUI have not said that OP will be the same worldwide. I only hope for similar. As far as competative play is concerned we are probably delivering more competative play in the UK with our challenge series than is currently available in the USA. Just don't forget WHO is doing all the work.
 
"As far as competative play is concerned we are probably delivering more competative play in the UK with our challenge series than is currently available in the USA. Just don't forget WHO is doing all the work."

I doth protest. ALL IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. If you want US to sympathize and assist in your plight and I AGREE that we should not be EGOCENTRIC in our pokemon benefits... then I ASK you not CLAIM likewise of better. =/ *touche*

Some areas in the US offer very competive environments. OTHERS for whatever reason do no or cannot. AND many here too BATTLE to keep their area pokemon alive.

I would have hoped you would have been able to agree with Michel if not with me or Prof Dave.

AND From what Prof Dave said... WHEN PUI is attemping to negotiate and create distributions in EU how would it look to RETAILERS and DISTRIBUTORS that they HAND OFF FREE OF CHARGE to Profs and Master Profsm TO's & HJ's free product.

YOU AND I know the kind of relationship we had with the WotC MT's. WE can't say the $ame from di$tributor$.

*I am done, OUT of here for the weekend...
 
Ok people. I think we have been getting a little bit off topic here, the initial thread is "Outside the US, what is left?" And at present there are places everywhere that are running quite thin on previous stock but are still running.

I don't know about all of you guys in europe but our current situation in Australia is this.... We still have some promotional stuff from the energy season leagues (Fire, Grass etc... ) We in NEVER recieved any battlezone and even didn't receive any of the last 2 of our seasons.

My complaint is this.... We (as many of you were aware at the same time) found out that WotC was not having their contract renewed with Nintendo/Pokemon USA, this would mean one of 2 things. Nintendo was not interested in cards or that they were going to take on resposibility themselves. In the case of the latter it would have been nice for them to do distribution at a similar time to all of us. I find it really annoying finding the promotion cards on ebay then finding that we will get them 6 months to a year later. If we do indeed get them at all.

It appears that they didn't realize what type of responsibility they were taking on but I would have expected that they would translate the cards in to an English language and then distribute those cards to all english speaking countries. Like GuardianTIM said earlier in the thread we can speak American even if they drop a letter in the word colour.

As proffessor Dave will no longer be in this forum I expect that he may still read some of these posts and come to grace us with information when the need arises. When that day comes or when someone does contact us from Pokemon USA International, It will be good.

As a closing remark, (my Rambling has got a better of me) I would like to say that at the moment, while we have still only a limited stock, There is still a league in the Port Adelaide Markets, in Australia. We still get the cards in for players and we still get promotional cards even if we have to put money from our own pockets to get them. We are NOT interested in making money, but we ARE interested in collecting for our own sets and also keeping the intrest with our league members.... No, not league members, with our friends that support us and want to keep the game alive.
 
I note the discussion still fixates on promos and that is only half our problems ... Access to the website and league listings is and was never going to upset the distributors yet still we are denied it!

As for Promo's I still see no reason at all why the distributors would have created a fuss and we even suggested they be distributed to us by them

The reality is there has been a lack of focus on international and an unwillingness to listen

And a I won't post here response from PUI seems really adult to me ...

Maybe this is not the forum then Dave can take the issues up with us all on Aim or Email ... he has the email addresses ... all he has to do is look... but then it now is not his job...
 
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and league listings is and was never going to upset the distributors yet still we are denied it!
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Here's the thing: there are no Nintendo Leagues in Europe yet. All Leagues currently running in Europe are completely unofficial. They are fan based, and aren't sanctioned or prize supported by PUI. So we won't get League listings before the official Nintendo Leagues start all over the continent.

Of course it's stupid, a list of fan based Leagues and tournaments would help a lot. But the reason why there isn't is kind of obvious.
 
Here's the thing: there are no Nintendo Leagues in Europe yet. All Leagues currently running in Europe are completely unofficial. They are fan based, and aren't sanctioned or prize supported by PUI. So we won't get League listings before the official Nintendo Leagues start all over the continent.

Of course it's stupid, a list of fan based Leagues and tournaments would help a lot. But the reason why there isn't is kind of obvious.
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Sorry Tego but the company man really is coming to the fore here ... we exist but we don't exist therefore we don't get listed...

Okay by that token why bother listing the distributors when they knew nothing about OP.. or us as professors when we can't do anything... Honestly we are about to be mired in a corporate swamp here and you are looking at it as a corporate man.

I still see no reason why we can't be listed ... why not make us official if that's a problem?...

I still see no reason why we were not sent none league promos for support?

The only reason in reality is an unwillingness to actually do anything caused by who knows what but someone, somewhere made a decision to let the rest of the world swing in the wind and so far there is no hard support still... but PUI and Nintendo USA will now claim we have International OP !!
 
Also: when the kits do get to the distributors, how exactly will they know where the leagues are if they aren't listed? Who will they send them to then?
 
If you aren't buying product directly from a distributor then access to league materials will rely upon those of us that do. I've already stated that I will share anything that I get and I'm sure Ben will do the same.
 
We certainly will do our upmost to share and divide any materials fairly (as possible amongst all leagues or we will use them at SE Challenges so that even those with no league can access promos and materials.

Of course we may just go it alone.. nothing new there if Nintendo and PUI mess it up further...
 
I have had some information leaked to me through my boss that on the 14th of this month.... The Pokemon Proffessor Program will be open. I am not sure if this is reliable information but I thought I better tell you. The date is 14 Oct 2003
 
I want a League List just as badly as you do. I'm just saying I know why they aren't making one yet.

When the Nintendo League starts here later this fall, all distributors will have a list of Leagues and their adress in order to send them the newest kit each month. That would be the most accurate list they possibly can have, because they know where the Leagues are, and that they do receive a kit every month.

As soon as all Leagues start in Europe, they could gather all lists from distributors and make a list of Official Nintendo Leagues. But right now, what do they have to base their lists on? How can they obtain accurate information of where all active, unofficial Leagues are? The only list they could make is one with every fan based League on the continent, but that would be hard to do.

Yes, each distributor could try to contact their country's tournament organizers and League "Gym Leaders" and try to find out where all the Leagues are. But why should they do that know, when they are going to anyway in a few weeks time, to start up the Nintendo League?

And they could in theory contact all Professors. But do you realize how few of this continent's Leagues actually are run by Professors? Most Leagues are run by normal store employees with next to no knowledge of the Professor Program, and no contact to the Internet Community.

It would all be so easier if they just waited a bit more with their League list, and waited until the new, official League starts this fall. It's the exact same thing with your idea about sending kits to the Professors in Europe. It is a good idea, but in reality, too many Leagues would end up getting nothing. All the Leagues I mentioned above, the ones with no links to the Internet Pokémon Community.
 
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Tego most distributors don't even know that there is a card game associated with pokemon. We asked one of the UKs distributors and their response was

'What OP for pokemon'?

closely folowed by

'We don't talk to the public'

Just because a Norwegian distributor knows about league and OP doesn't mean that all the rest do...

I hope that the Oct 10th visit to Barcelona at least made the distributors who went aware that OP used to exist for pokemon.
 
I visited the UK distributor's site for Pokémon-e TCG... and I saw the notice that OP will be run through a third party... It's the same here in Italy.
The only difference is that we (Italy)are not sure about this third party, 'cause the company our distributor indicated as the possible OP responsible doesn't answer... though Hobbygames encorages to contact them to know about OP... hmmm I think the Barcelona meeting has moved something...
 
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From a source at the distributors meeting:


we are not as far on as I would have expected us to be ..{/quote]


Oh dear looks like next year then :( Still 30 kits ROFLMAO that will keep us all going 'til then.. won't it... ?
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If that quote really is true, I'm deeply disappointed. If things didn't move drastically forward with that meeting, we are in trouble. Sending all distributors all the way to Spain in a big IRL meeting SHOULD have helped a lot.
 
Posted by PokePop - 10/13/2003 at 04:22 PM

Who is that quote attributed to? A distributor or a PUI rep?
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And that matters why? Because we trust Pui and their reps to look after the rest of the world .. give us equal consideration and consultation?

Yeah I am really gonna drop the girl or guy who said this in it ... NOT!

I hope to find out more tomorrow when I can question both the UK distributors more about what was said and what they managed to nab... certainly initial impressions are not good ..

Why the urgency? well we are hanging on here and really fed up with it that's why!
 
I hope you misunderstand me. I'm not asking the source. I'm asking who is supposed to be quoted. I'm asking exactly what I wrote: A PUI rep or a distributor. I'm not asking names.
You don't think it matters who is saying something?
 
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Who has info on that 'third party' in the UK ? I've just seen it too on hobbygames.com. What does it mean ? Will all the distributors not be involved in OP ? Who's that 'third party' ?

Come on UK, provide info to the continent please ;)

Leagues ? What is a league, and what is a club ? In Belgium, as normally a league had to be linked to a shop (all except one ;) ), individuals who were not linked to shops have run 'Pokemon clubs', without WotC support.

Which will be the conditions to start a league ? Who will may do it ?

It seems that the situation is clear in the UK, but it's not the same in Belgium. Some have stopped, some others wait for new instructions (IOW new OP plans), some places still have meetings, ...

There are now 1 'living' league and 2 'sleeping' leagues in the French part of the country. A comparaison ? :) YGO has 1 active, 1 new active on Wednesday and 1 'in construction'. The active and the one in construction are former Pokemon leagues.
In the Dutch part of Belgium, YGO is very active too with 'old Pokemon transformed into YGO' and brand new places. 2 big tournaments this month too.

We want to play a Pokemon tournament ? First one is ... in Holland on Nov 1, run by our Dutch professor friends, ... one day before a main YGO event at the same game fair.

BTW, Eindhoven is not that far. Would be great to see you, Ben, Ian, Freddy, and all the other UK Pokemon players ;)

But don't forget the info about the 'third party' :)

Barcelona ? Who know how many distributors were invited and how many have attended the meeting ? That could be a first sign of the distributors involvment in OP.
 
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