Skywolf, previously you told us to e-mail the International Pokémon commision. I e-mailed them three weeks ago, and all i have gotten was an automated response. We are angry because we are getting no help from ANYONE. We aren't directing it at you, but there is no help to speak of for many countries.
Outside the US - What is left?
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Professor Dav
Master Trainer
Michel said:
International distributors/partners are contractually obligated to run OP in their markets as well as recieving incentives from PUI to do so.
Does that answer the question?
Prof. Dav
Skywolf1
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Dave:
Please don't take this post or anything said herein, as a "personal attack" on your character or credibility.
Truthfully,
No it doesn't answer the question. It "sugarcoats" it, and poses 3 more.
Those being:
1. What if the Distributor is merely signing on just in HOPES in can milk more money out of the "Pokemon Brand"?
2. What if the distributor still refuses to co-operate with professors in their respective markets, and what then if the player goes through PUI channels, and STILL nothing? Then What?
3. What is being done to sustain interest in contries that STILL have a contingent of Players?
These are just some questions that I have. I have been told, that I shouldn't even worry about the "international contingent" because I live here in the States, which I do. However, I feel very strongly about this game, and I will NOT rest until I see it played around the world, and enjoyed by all players.
It seems to me, that the Distributors are playing with PUI's head, by telling them they'll support OP, when in essence, they don't have any inclination to do so.
Some thoughts from an old Wolf,
Skywolf1
Please don't take this post or anything said herein, as a "personal attack" on your character or credibility.
Truthfully,
No it doesn't answer the question. It "sugarcoats" it, and poses 3 more.
Those being:
1. What if the Distributor is merely signing on just in HOPES in can milk more money out of the "Pokemon Brand"?
2. What if the distributor still refuses to co-operate with professors in their respective markets, and what then if the player goes through PUI channels, and STILL nothing? Then What?
3. What is being done to sustain interest in contries that STILL have a contingent of Players?
These are just some questions that I have. I have been told, that I shouldn't even worry about the "international contingent" because I live here in the States, which I do. However, I feel very strongly about this game, and I will NOT rest until I see it played around the world, and enjoyed by all players.
It seems to me, that the Distributors are playing with PUI's head, by telling them they'll support OP, when in essence, they don't have any inclination to do so.
Some thoughts from an old Wolf,
Skywolf1
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NoPoke
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$110 a booster box? That is $18.33 per player.
Is the distributor providing prize support and compensation to the TO/judges?
Is the distributor paying for the venue and all other costs?
If the answer to either of these is NO. Then I'd suggest that you run a small tournament for your league players rather than a much more expensive premiere event.
We were fully anticipating this kind of problem with new distributors in the UK. Fortunately the company delivering OP in the UK is experienced at Magic pre-releases.
tell your distributor that you can run a pre-release for X players where X is the number of players that you get at league.... and see what he says.
Is the distributor providing prize support and compensation to the TO/judges?
Is the distributor paying for the venue and all other costs?
If the answer to either of these is NO. Then I'd suggest that you run a small tournament for your league players rather than a much more expensive premiere event.
We were fully anticipating this kind of problem with new distributors in the UK. Fortunately the company delivering OP in the UK is experienced at Magic pre-releases.
tell your distributor that you can run a pre-release for X players where X is the number of players that you get at league.... and see what he says.
Thanks fot your answer Dave, and that actually confirm what I was thinking about it.
Of course I do agree with Skywolf when he says that absolutely nothing, at least from what I've written here, is against you or anybody at PUI.
When I hear and see what happens (or does not happen) in some of our countries, I have the feeling that some distributors are not really interested in POP, and certainly not in having people like Professors giving ideas, suggestions and/or trying to correct some mistakes.
I've told the PUI International OP team by email that I find OP plans for the USA really great, that I'm sure these plans, or something similar, could have a huge success in Europe, but I've also told them that I had doubts about the distributors and their involvment in POP.
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid that what we see now goes in that direction.
Rainbowgym
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NoPoke
The answer on those 2 questions is NO at this moment.
No support or compensation from the distributor for the TO/Judges or whatever even my request to let me buy some more boosters to give to the Judges was not approved.
Nothing about the prices to earn at such an event (they don't know the split up, along as many things they don't know, i even think they mailed POP today with the question about price split up)
I provided them a complete list with X players, how many boosters i need etc.
I'm the only one running this prerelease, because we don't have so much players left around the country. And most younger players don't have the money to join a prerelease. We (the remaining 3 TO's) decided to run prereleases in shifts. This time it's my turn and all active players who want to join come to my place to play. Next time another TO will do the prerelease and then i'm coming with my players to his event.
This is how we survived the last 2 years and in case there will be coming more qualified TO's in the future we suggested the distributor that they find TO's in other parts of the country and let them do the same.
Then if there are enough players again, only then think about each TO running his/her own prerelease event. But that's future not present. (and again they don't listen we found out today)
The answer on those 2 questions is NO at this moment.
No support or compensation from the distributor for the TO/Judges or whatever even my request to let me buy some more boosters to give to the Judges was not approved.
Nothing about the prices to earn at such an event (they don't know the split up, along as many things they don't know, i even think they mailed POP today with the question about price split up)
I provided them a complete list with X players, how many boosters i need etc.
I'm the only one running this prerelease, because we don't have so much players left around the country. And most younger players don't have the money to join a prerelease. We (the remaining 3 TO's) decided to run prereleases in shifts. This time it's my turn and all active players who want to join come to my place to play. Next time another TO will do the prerelease and then i'm coming with my players to his event.
This is how we survived the last 2 years and in case there will be coming more qualified TO's in the future we suggested the distributor that they find TO's in other parts of the country and let them do the same.
Then if there are enough players again, only then think about each TO running his/her own prerelease event. But that's future not present. (and again they don't listen we found out today)
Professor Dav
Master Trainer
Skywolf1 said:
Well, Marsh, I don't really think a statement of fact such as the one I made is a 'sugarcoating' of any sort.
The question was, "BUT DO THE DISTRIBUTORS WANT TO DO IT OR DO THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO DO IT ?"
I cannot speak to whether they 'want' to do it or not, but I can say, as I did with my statement, that they are in fact obligated to do so by the terms of thier contracts. How you deem this to be 'sugarcoating' I'm not sure.
The fact of the matter is, that these distributors are contractually obligated to meet the terms of their agreements with us, and the answer to the 'what if's' posed above are the exact same answers to any other question regarding a contractual obligation, be it with us, or any other organization. IF you choose not to fulfill your end of a contractual obligation, you are subject to termination of said contract, and/or, legal action to recoup any damages incurred by the failure on your part to meet the provisions of said contract.
How would you propose we solve the possiblity of the issues you pose in questions 1 & 2? How do we know in advance that a distributor will be a problem? We don't. That's why we have a contract. How do we know that a distributor may or may not 'play well with others' when it comes to professors, prior to giving them a chance to do so? We don't. Again, that's why we get signatures on the bottom line of a contract.
As I've said before, I've been as forthcoming as possible with all of my answers, and have always given an honest answer to the limits of what I am allowed to say. Yet, I'm sure that even this response will have some people on this board picking apart each sentence to find the 'spin' that I've obviously spent weeks working on prior to posting this message.
You can all say that your comments aren't intended to be personal, yet, many of you seem to take the issues we're currently dealing with internationally VERY personally, as though PUI doesn't want you as a customer, or fan of Pokemon, which of course, couldn't be farther from the truth.
I am currently managing three countries, plus Puerto Rico myself from the US office. That's Canada, the US and Mexico. That is NOT ethnocentricity on our part. It is simply what it is, the way our business is currently set up. It is what it is, and we're doing our best to get everyone set up with Pokemon and OP as best we can.
Prof. Dav
Marcello-Milord
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Dave,
we all know that PUI wants the best from this game, it's obvious, it's a business and if you have taken the game on your own hands instead of leaving it to Wizards, there's an interest for the game.
And if there's an interest for this game, there's an interest also in running it well also in other countries, an issue that is resolves using the distributors.
Yes, there are contracts, and distributors are forced to run OP in their countries.
Yes, PUI International team helps them running correctly OP.
But remember that these distributors works for you.
We are not complaining with you beacuse you are the responsibles and it's your fault... It's not true. We are referring our situations to you, because you are the only people who can help us having a good time with Pokémon. It's in your interests, right?
We have no doubt that OP will be active in Europe from December 1st (though Italy seems to be starting with January...odd thing, but it's off topic now), and we have no doubt that everyone will ahve full support.
The truth is when, what, how.
It's not you the international manager, it's not up to you to answer.
But while USA have great and full OP support, Europe is in a transitional moment. Some distributors have materials, some not. What?
Some distributors started their OP, some not. When?
Some distributors announced League and pre-releases, some not. How?
we all know that PUI wants the best from this game, it's obvious, it's a business and if you have taken the game on your own hands instead of leaving it to Wizards, there's an interest for the game.
And if there's an interest for this game, there's an interest also in running it well also in other countries, an issue that is resolves using the distributors.
Yes, there are contracts, and distributors are forced to run OP in their countries.
Yes, PUI International team helps them running correctly OP.
But remember that these distributors works for you.
We are not complaining with you beacuse you are the responsibles and it's your fault... It's not true. We are referring our situations to you, because you are the only people who can help us having a good time with Pokémon. It's in your interests, right?
We have no doubt that OP will be active in Europe from December 1st (though Italy seems to be starting with January...odd thing, but it's off topic now), and we have no doubt that everyone will ahve full support.
The truth is when, what, how.
It's not you the international manager, it's not up to you to answer.
But while USA have great and full OP support, Europe is in a transitional moment. Some distributors have materials, some not. What?
Some distributors started their OP, some not. When?
Some distributors announced League and pre-releases, some not. How?
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Even if europe does get it in December first, what does that mean? small, dedicated leagues? It wouldn't make much of an impact because unofficial leagues are already running to that extent worldwide. If OP was established, it would probably mean less, but larger tournaments for the fans who happen to be in the right place at the right time. Simply establishing OP won't really help much, IMO i think something along the lines of a widespread launch of all countries not covered by Pokemon USA for a cheap and efficent OP strategy. It would ensure everyone gets the necissary options of play and increase the players included in said leagues.
Dave:
Canada isn't what you'd call "covered" by Pokemon USA. Our only nintendo-charged OP tournament not ran at the local convenience store (even those are rare as pokémon is losing its popularity) was the EX sandstorm prerelease.
Dave:
Canada isn't what you'd call "covered" by Pokemon USA. Our only nintendo-charged OP tournament not ran at the local convenience store (even those are rare as pokémon is losing its popularity) was the EX sandstorm prerelease.
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ranmasaotomes
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Now the question is.....
Will other countries be able to access the stuff via the Pokemon-tcg web site?
Will other countries be able to access the stuff via the Pokemon-tcg web site?
Dave,
I think something has to be very clear. Even if some people who've written on these boards hoped to see international OP earlier than it will be, we all know that it's not easy for you and PUI to work on POP in so many different countries.
We don't take anything personally, and I think that, if we're customers and fans of Pokemon, we also want to work for the game like we did in the past. The cards we buy is one thing, but the kids who were playing at our leagues or tournaments is more important to all of us.
I'm sure that PUI want the same thing as we do : make POP a success in all the countries.
I know we can't be sure that we'll have problems in the future, but we've already had experiences with the 'distributors system' and we know it has failed in the past, even if they had probably signed contracts and if they were obliged to have one person of their staff dedicated to OP.
We do also see how things are going now, and it's not encouraging in some countries like Holland or Italy.
We could sit and wait, wait and see what will happen in the next months. But we prefer to say directly what's wrong instead of having to say, in 6 or 9 months, that POP has failed because of the distributors and that Pokemon is dead in most of our countries.
We see the players shifting to other games, we see Professors - and I'm one of them - running other tournaments and league than Pokemon, ...
You all know that I play and organize YuGiOh events. But honestly, when I see that 5 tournaments in Belgium have more than 120 players together and that only one Pokemon tournament is scheduled this month, when I see that in Eidhoven last week-end, there were 102 players at the YGO tournament for approx 30 at the Pokemon tournament (thanks again to our Profs in Holland for having given us the opportunity to play), I'm really sad.
You do your job, and I realize how difficult it must be, in Richmond. You have 'main company/client' contacts with the distributors. We are 'on the field' and we see and live what exactly happens.
The only thing we try to do is to have the best for Pokemon in our countries, and telling what's wrong is one of the ways to improve POP.
Nothing personal, but when someone like Lia (Rainbowgym) proposes to the distributor to run a prerelease, to organize everything by herself, and that the answer is 'No, we're not interested, we'll not do anything for you', when she actually proposes to promote the game and a new set, when we all know than thanks to that the distributor will have more money in his pocket, I'm sure you'll understand that she doesn't have a very happy reaction.
ukpokemonpro
New Member
Okay well I am Amazed at the prices Rainbowgym is being asked to pay for product to run a pre-release!
If you look at the pricing in the US where pre-releases are coming in at between $15 and $20 for 6 booster packs and convert that to Euro's you'll see that Rainbowgym is being ripped off here...
There also seems to be a discrepency between prize support available in the US and no Prize Support available in Europe!
Certainly I would not run a pre-release were I having to pay what Rainbowgym is being asked to ... Jarred needs to look into the issue of local pricing for pre-releases as against a global price and the charges foir TOs as well.
The UK has based it's charging on the US model and I am happy to run a Pre-release based on that pricing structure and with that level of prize support but for Rainbowgym you cannot possibly make it pay for the venue, product and prizes with only 2 weeks notice aswell!
Shakes head and wonders at what "not letting a distributor fail" actually means?
If you look at the pricing in the US where pre-releases are coming in at between $15 and $20 for 6 booster packs and convert that to Euro's you'll see that Rainbowgym is being ripped off here...
There also seems to be a discrepency between prize support available in the US and no Prize Support available in Europe!
Certainly I would not run a pre-release were I having to pay what Rainbowgym is being asked to ... Jarred needs to look into the issue of local pricing for pre-releases as against a global price and the charges foir TOs as well.
The UK has based it's charging on the US model and I am happy to run a Pre-release based on that pricing structure and with that level of prize support but for Rainbowgym you cannot possibly make it pay for the venue, product and prizes with only 2 weeks notice aswell!
Shakes head and wonders at what "not letting a distributor fail" actually means?
Flippin treeko
New Member
well it's taken me two days to read this thread.....what an eyeopener, it's certainly given me some insight into why the game is where it is at the moment, too some extent the decline in participation and why the release schedule for 'N's product seems so hurried ( 4 sets in under 12 mnths! crazy) :nonono:
Now I'm a noob, albeit an aged noob (32) and I'm introducing the game to other kids and parents in my area, y'know professing the ease of the game using it as a learning tool etc etc etc, and I recently joined our freinds down in Rainham for a draft event. Ben you have even more respect now I know the sitch you are operating under! It was suggested to me that I consider starting a league/gym/club in my area........but like....
.......after reading this it doesn't seem conducive to ones own health!
What incentive is there for myself to get involved in this ....melee for want of a better word.....? Which is going to be one of the games problems for development in the near future. Most of you guy's are running already established clubs with regular attendances (no matter how small) can you even imagine the mountain of problems posed to those just stepping into the arena?? Daunting isn't the word, ontop of the probs you've got I'd have to get a venue......advertise.....well of course you'll all know that stuff. And the nearest existing one I can find is Manchetsr, that's like 2 1/2 hours away, and despite how much I love the game I can't do the 400 mile round trip to go to Rainham every coupla weeks ( but I will be at southeast challenge!)
I believe the game is worth some involvement and some of my time but it looks like all the extra pressure descending on a floundering structure is more than likely gonna make it either topple or breakaway...theres only so much a community will take no?
I shall be watching this thread with interest as it's probably THE ONLY decent source of information (reliable) available at my level of involvement!
Now I'm a noob, albeit an aged noob (32) and I'm introducing the game to other kids and parents in my area, y'know professing the ease of the game using it as a learning tool etc etc etc, and I recently joined our freinds down in Rainham for a draft event. Ben you have even more respect now I know the sitch you are operating under! It was suggested to me that I consider starting a league/gym/club in my area........but like....
.......after reading this it doesn't seem conducive to ones own health!What incentive is there for myself to get involved in this ....melee for want of a better word.....? Which is going to be one of the games problems for development in the near future. Most of you guy's are running already established clubs with regular attendances (no matter how small) can you even imagine the mountain of problems posed to those just stepping into the arena?? Daunting isn't the word, ontop of the probs you've got I'd have to get a venue......advertise.....well of course you'll all know that stuff. And the nearest existing one I can find is Manchetsr, that's like 2 1/2 hours away, and despite how much I love the game I can't do the 400 mile round trip to go to Rainham every coupla weeks ( but I will be at southeast challenge!)
I believe the game is worth some involvement and some of my time but it looks like all the extra pressure descending on a floundering structure is more than likely gonna make it either topple or breakaway...theres only so much a community will take no?
I shall be watching this thread with interest as it's probably THE ONLY decent source of information (reliable) available at my level of involvement!
Marcello-Milord
New Member
Finally, I have a positive update from Italy.
I obtained (thanks to Prof. Donphan) the personal email of the CEO of Nexus (and the same guy is the OP manager, it seems).
He kindly answered me immediately, and here's the facts:
- They are still finalizing with PUI what they have to do, 'cause they are not "the" distributor, but "one" distributor;
- They made at Lucca some demos and mini-tourneys;
- They are ready to start OP at any moment;
- They are also ready to support a tournament during the Italian Mind Games in milan (last year some of you played in that tournament, I remember the swiss players mostly), if there is a certified judge in Milan (me ^_^).
The start in January is mostly due to these company issues.
I noticed though there we miss Dragon prereleases
Hopefully tomorrow I'll have some other news from Italy
PS He didn't have a Professor list... I linked him to the online list
I obtained (thanks to Prof. Donphan) the personal email of the CEO of Nexus (and the same guy is the OP manager, it seems).
He kindly answered me immediately, and here's the facts:
- They are still finalizing with PUI what they have to do, 'cause they are not "the" distributor, but "one" distributor;
- They made at Lucca some demos and mini-tourneys;
- They are ready to start OP at any moment;
- They are also ready to support a tournament during the Italian Mind Games in milan (last year some of you played in that tournament, I remember the swiss players mostly), if there is a certified judge in Milan (me ^_^).
The start in January is mostly due to these company issues.
I noticed though there we miss Dragon prereleases
Hopefully tomorrow I'll have some other news from Italy
PS He didn't have a Professor list... I linked him to the online list
ukpokemonpro
New Member
Flippin treeko
We had our leagues running under their own steam
Nintendo and the distributors appointed a third party run by OP specialists to run OP and Leagues in the UK
We have a regular and existing dialogue with both the OP specialist and the distributors.
Stuart the reason to continue here in the UK is because you get support from all of us the OP specialists, the professors and the distributors. Or nintendo Leagues kits arrive soon and we are awash with old promos too so we have plenty of support to offer anyone who starts a league afresh in the UK.
We'll chat some more at SE Challenge 5 ... we maybe able to find a nearer location for you to use yet than Madchester!
As for Europe well Dave it is not personal but if as I suspect there are only 1 or 2 Dragon pre-releases in Europe can you truely say the distributors have not failed?
And if you do apply sanctions to them have you not then destroyed your distribution channel also?
As i have said before it would be nice for Jarred to speak direct to his professors and TOs to start a dialogue and to address issues coming out of the distributors.. It would be good for jarred to introiduce the distributors to the professors... something not needed in the UK where our 8 hour meeting with them is booked for a SATURDAY!
We are comitted here in the UK, the distributors are comitted here in the UK and now is our chance to grow the game once more ... I just wish the same could be seen in the rest of the world and there are still major issues to be addressed over Worlds, European, Country and County championships accross the world including the UK.
And Dave you need to look to Mexico and Canada too from what has been posted here because they seem in need of support.....
Why indeed .. the question I used to ask myself.. Now one thing is good and that is the situation in the UK is definitely looking up. Indeed it seems to be complete reverse of last year where the UK was way behind Europe and most of that is due to three things really.
We had our leagues running under their own steam
Nintendo and the distributors appointed a third party run by OP specialists to run OP and Leagues in the UK
We have a regular and existing dialogue with both the OP specialist and the distributors.
Stuart the reason to continue here in the UK is because you get support from all of us the OP specialists, the professors and the distributors. Or nintendo Leagues kits arrive soon and we are awash with old promos too so we have plenty of support to offer anyone who starts a league afresh in the UK.
We'll chat some more at SE Challenge 5 ... we maybe able to find a nearer location for you to use yet than Madchester!
As for Europe well Dave it is not personal but if as I suspect there are only 1 or 2 Dragon pre-releases in Europe can you truely say the distributors have not failed?
And if you do apply sanctions to them have you not then destroyed your distribution channel also?
As i have said before it would be nice for Jarred to speak direct to his professors and TOs to start a dialogue and to address issues coming out of the distributors.. It would be good for jarred to introiduce the distributors to the professors... something not needed in the UK where our 8 hour meeting with them is booked for a SATURDAY!
We are comitted here in the UK, the distributors are comitted here in the UK and now is our chance to grow the game once more ... I just wish the same could be seen in the rest of the world and there are still major issues to be addressed over Worlds, European, Country and County championships accross the world including the UK.
And Dave you need to look to Mexico and Canada too from what has been posted here because they seem in need of support.....
Rainbowgym
Active Member
Flippin Treeko,
Just start a league and enjoy it, it's really not needed to get so much involved as we are.
You can have great back-up of professors in your country if you have questions.
Most European Profs overhere are trying to make it easier for people like you, to start a league and most important to get proper information.
If the base/contacts are good/honest between distributor/3th party and profs than great things are possible.
For the UK you don't have to climb the barriers, the "old" profs are doing that for you.(and it worked hurray)
Don't back off, because you are reading the problems other profs have.
For me i'm getting help/back up from all around the world to solve my problems with the distributors.
But those problems don't keep me away from running my league.
I had a theme tournament this afternoon(nobody had to pay for joining), bought a very cheap boosterbox Rockets and all the kids recieved a booster after the tournament, i gave some of the promo's out of my Prof thank you thingie and one of them got the tshirt out of the leaguekit.
If you had seen those happy faces, you know why most profs outside the USA still run leagues.
Think of this, my distributor will never see such happy faces and thankfull kids. Never have such a positive feeling. Never know how much you get in return for giving interest/time for free.
Why?
Because the only positive he has is his bankaccount. And in bankaccounts no feelings are involved.
You don't have to do things like this, giving time and interest in members of your league, will be enough for many pleasant hours of playing the game.
Just start a league and enjoy it, it's really not needed to get so much involved as we are.
You can have great back-up of professors in your country if you have questions.
Most European Profs overhere are trying to make it easier for people like you, to start a league and most important to get proper information.
If the base/contacts are good/honest between distributor/3th party and profs than great things are possible.
For the UK you don't have to climb the barriers, the "old" profs are doing that for you.(and it worked hurray)
Don't back off, because you are reading the problems other profs have.
For me i'm getting help/back up from all around the world to solve my problems with the distributors.
But those problems don't keep me away from running my league.
I had a theme tournament this afternoon(nobody had to pay for joining), bought a very cheap boosterbox Rockets and all the kids recieved a booster after the tournament, i gave some of the promo's out of my Prof thank you thingie and one of them got the tshirt out of the leaguekit.
If you had seen those happy faces, you know why most profs outside the USA still run leagues.
Think of this, my distributor will never see such happy faces and thankfull kids. Never have such a positive feeling. Never know how much you get in return for giving interest/time for free.
Why?
Because the only positive he has is his bankaccount. And in bankaccounts no feelings are involved.
You don't have to do things like this, giving time and interest in members of your league, will be enough for many pleasant hours of playing the game.
Professor Dav
Master Trainer
Michel said:
Yes, this is a problem and we need to be notified of these issues. Remember, there are always two sides to a story, and this board almost always only provides one of those sides.
I find it to be problematic that we have to find out about these issues on a private message forum rather than through our proper channels. I know that there's been a problem in the past with the response from the international email address, but you are always welcome to use one of the other 'official' addresses to contact us with problems like these, and for the most part, that isn't happening very often.
I assume that this is the issue with the Netherlands distributor who was asking them to pay $110 per booster box to run the event? If so, we are working on this issue and the distributor needs to understand how prerelease events are supposed to be handled.
At this time, it sounds like Lia and the distributor have had issues in the past which are most definitely affecting their current working relationship now. It's our responsibility to figure out what is going on, get both sides of any given story, and MAKE it work one way or another so that there can be worldwide prerelease tournaments and other events.
And, so we're clear, Lia, to my knowledge, didn't bring this issue to our attention, PS games did.
We can't address ANY problems domestically or internationally if we aren't directly notified about them.
Prof. Dav
Professor Dav
Master Trainer
Marcello-Milord said:
Honestly, I don't have all the answers to all of these questions. However, I do know that there are many reasons in some cases for the situations described above. We wanted to have at least a few prereleases in Europe, so that we could show that we do in fact intend to support this type of event internationally. I'd also like to use your "Some have, some haven't" question to illustrate something I've said a number of times, to a number of people when asked "why can't you just send us a few league kits?"
The imbalance, or inequity, of supporting one group and not equitably supporting another causes some serious friction among customers. People think we 'don't care' about them if a program has launched elsewhere, but not in their region. People think that because we state "Not all programs will be available in all areas" that we're 'spinning' our words to allow ourselves an "out", when in fact, those statements have more to do with the fact that most European countries don't have States, so, why would we have "State Championships" there?
Europe is definitely in a transitional stage, as is the rest of our international market, and I speak with Jarrod everyday regarding what I'm doing with my programs, and what I'd like to see him doing to keep it as similar as possible so that everyone is on a level playing field.
Prof. Dav
Professor Dav
Master Trainer
Kyfogre22 said:
Kyfogre22,
We can't force OP on anyone. My point is that we support Canada from this office. ALL Canadian stores, professors and Tournament organizers are welcome, and encouraged to apply to sanction tournaments and run leagues via our website.
I suspect we'll be doing more marketing in the coming months, but we do 'cover' Canada from this office.
My recommendation to you is to bug your local shops to run tournaments and leagues, usually, the promise of more customers will be much more motivating than we could ever be!
Prof. Dav
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