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Packin' Heat: a Tyability deck in need of speeding up

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Pokemon:

3-2-3 Typhlosion line (all UF)
2-2 Weezing line (Koffing from TRR, Weezing from Deoxys)
2-1-2 Pidgeot line (all FR/LG)
4 Plusle (Deoxys)

Trainers:

4 Celio's
4 Rare Candy
3 Desert Ruins
1 Cursed Stone
2 Copycat
3 Steven's
2 Rocket's Admin
2 Energy Root
1 Briney's
1 Retriever

Energy:

5 Fire
4 Double Rainbow
3 Rainbow
3 Holon FF
1 Warp

It's a Typhlosion/Liability deck. You pretty much know the strategy behind it - pop EX's with Weezing/Ruins or 'Phlosion, smash everything else with 'Phlosion, use Pidgeot and Plusle to bring stuff out, etc. It does quite well against most decks when it gets set up first, but I keep running into a wall vs. BLS. I sometimes have a problem getting things out and running, especially against BLS. After the recent tournaments at BRAD'S (where half the game there was BLS, I swear! :mad: ), Heidi suggested dumping the Plusle and 1 candy for a Holon engine. Not sure if that'll work. Can anybody give me any other ideas re: making this deck faster, as well as stategies for beating BLS with it?

- Croatian_Nidoking
 
well plusle isnt the way to go really because if you sacrifice that plusle and your trying to use the combo of the liability trick, your opponent will always be 1 prize card ahead because of that sacrifice. Also i like to attack with my guys early on basically. Try maybe the holon engine line instead to see if that will do any good. Take out a warp and 1 holon FF for 2 heal energy incase your opponent tries to paralyze you or something. Good deck list though
 
The Cursed Stone tech is anti-Ludi, though I guess that's what Holon FF is for to some extent. Would it be safe to use only 3 Stadiums in a deck like this and ditch the Stone for a Holon engine part?

Heal Energy, IMHO, seems counterproductive in this deck. You don't need it for Weezing, and 'Phlosion thrives on being hurt. Hence the Warp Energy tech.

I'm worried that if I take the Plusle line out, I'll have a problem with mulligans since there'll only be 7 Basics in the deck.

I'll try the Holon engine, possibly with a Lass replacing the Farmer.

- Croatian_Nidoking
 
I say go with the Holon engine, drop the plusles, keep a farmer bc you may need to recycle a Weez/koffing combo and possibly get some energy back into deck. 3 Stevens may be a bit much, bc many decks arent using huge benches and know there is giant stump out also. Maybe throw a Birch or an Oak into the mix instead. If the engine is working, you wont need as much draw (plus you have the bird), may want to tech in a few Pokemon reversals and 1-2 POW!. If you are behind on prizes, can POW up their heavy hitter/EX to Weez/Ruins or Burning Aura them. Just a few thoughts, since i run this deck myself w/ more tech than you have.

Keith
 
you definitely need reversal/warp or even pow. and cursed stone is gonna eat your bird away...go straight desert ruins. if you want some BLS strategies PM me.

-K-
 
Say, Lawman, could you post the Tech-ified form of this deck that you use? I could use that as a template.

Sadly, I can find room for the Holon engine, but no room for the reversals/warp/pow! Therein lies the problem.

- Croatian_Nidoking
 
I still need to go back and review MY deck. I think I have a few more fixes myself. Somehow, I figure out a way to fit in alot of tech w/o completely bogging down the deck. Prefer to keep a few secrets to myself, but you have to fit in a couple of reversals/POWs. Reversals are more important bc you can use them whenever vs. POW (only when behind). Pull that tank up from the bench, hit that EX w/ Liability and Ruins to take a 2 for 1 trade, snipe the blasty on the bench if you are playing a BLS deck. That sort of thing.

Keith
 
why dont you try a scramble cuz if your running the plusle set-up where it will most likely be a sac ko. Scramble would be great in the deck. Try it and tell me how it works out for ya.
 
3-2-3 Typhlosion line (all UF)
2-2 Weezing line (Koffing from TRR, Weezing from Deoxys)
2-1-2 Pidgeot line (all FR/LG)
4 jirachi DX

Trainers:
2 Holon Transciever
2 Holon Mentor
1 Holon Scientist
4 Celio's
4 Rare Candy
3 Desert Ruins
1 Cursed Stone
3 Steven's
1 Rocket's Admin
2 Energy Root
1 Briney's
1 Retriever

Energy:

5 Fire
4 Double Rainbow
3 Rainbow
2 Holon FF

umm i guess thats a pretty good list right there...lets see i wouldnt recommend playing this if you just KNOW that there will be lots of lbs, its pretty much an autoloss(no sense in taking an autloss if you dont have too ; D).you probly wouldnt want to play this if there is alot of machamp or queen either, GL.
 
Nice list, but the problem is, I only have 2 Jirachi. Is there any way to have a Holon engine without using Jirachi?

ETA: That's way too few Energy in that list. I'm afraid that I'm going to run into energy crises if I run too few.

- Croatian_Nidoking
 
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You can't play the holon engine effective without the use of at least 3 Jirachi. My list only plays 3 less enegy than yours. You don't need any more than 13 in the holon version.
 
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Do you mean "can" or "can't" play Holon engine w/o Jirachi, Moltres423? I'm not getting what you tried to say there.

I need to have this deck speeded up before next Saturday (I've got a tournament in Miami to attend). The chances of me getting a 3rd Jirachi in that time are slim to none. Would LM Lunatone/Swoop! work well as a substitute?

- Croatian_Nidoking
 
A 1/1 Victreebell(nectar pod) could work quite well with 'Phlosion/Liability. Bring up unpowered stage 2's, Pidgeot, Ex's,etc. Hmmm? Just a thought.
 
Anthony may never beat you with this new list.
 
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Croatian_Nidoking said:
Do you mean "can" or "can't" play Holon engine w/o Jirachi, Moltres423? I'm not getting what you tried to say there.

I need to have this deck speeded up before next Saturday (I've got a tournament in Miami to attend). The chances of me getting a 3rd Jirachi in that time are slim to none. Would LM Lunatone/Swoop! work well as a substitute?

- Croatian_Nidoking
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typo- The holon engine can't really be used effiecently without the use of Jirachi.
1-1 Victreebell sounds intresting, but somthing vital would have to be removed in order to make room.
 
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