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kill the minun
make ur life easier
if they have a have a holon engine, they will farmer it back in, mentor it out again, and know you cannot reversal it again
 
PSYCO829 said:
kill the minun
make ur life easier
if they have a have a holon engine, they will farmer it back in, mentor it out again, and know you cannot reversal it again

Firstly I'm not seeing many Mewtrics playing Holon engine, once it goes IMO its gone.

But the concern is still that I'm only taking the 1 prize as opposed to the 2, and if I pick off Manetric all I need to do is put up my Mew ex and KO FTW, it could all be over in the next 2 turns, Koing Minum means I can still KO the mew with my mew, getting me 2, but the final Mew will be more difficult, as they can Disconect everything I have FTW. Mmm, I guess I'm leaning towards Minum though.

Any other advice?
 
Kempley05 said:
Firstly I'm not seeing many Mewtrics playing Holon engine, once it goes IMO its gone.
most dont, but i have seen a few that did


Kempley05 said:
But the concern is still that I'm only taking the 1 prize as opposed to the 2, and if I pick off Manetric all I need to do is put up my Mew ex and KO FTW, it could all be over in the next 2 turns, Koing Minum means I can still KO the mew with my mew, getting me 2, but the final Mew will be more difficult, as they can Disconect everything I have FTW. Mmm, I guess I'm leaning towards Minum though.
minun must die
if he doesnt, lunarock loses in 4 turns
 
Kempley05 said:
This is IMO one the the more interesting and even matchups in the TCG right now.

I'm playing Lunarock here, with a Mew ex tech.

Typically I've found it boils down to a couple of things, the biggest one being Minum. If Mewtric doesn't run it, Luna tends to get a T3 KO, having outspeeded it and goes on to win from there. If Mew runs Minum, its 4 Negative sparks for the win.

So if I'm playing against Mewtric, we're both set-up they've started to negative spark me, should I try to Reversal out the Minum, KO and continue from there as normal, or should I go for the Manetric, do 120 and hope to get a 3rd KO on an ex with Mew and the 6 przes before my opponant plays the 4th and usualy deadly Negative SparkSpark?

Any advice on the play is welcome.

Um, How Do You Reversal When Then Disconnect You??
Drew
 
Hold it a sec. Ever attached an Energy Root and on a Lunatone that has benefitted from Solrock Body (the one that give Lunatone 80HP)? That gives it 100HP so really it could be 5 turns depending how many Energy Roots you get...
 
What if MewTric runs Space Center and Disconnet-lock it in place? Would LunaRock keep up the tempo with it's bodies shut off?
 
It's usualy an easy win for mewtrick.

I playtest vs Lunarock a LOT and it's a piece of cake! They get into foresight lock really easy while mewtrick slowly builds 2-3 Pokemon that can easily take care of Lunarock players.

Not only that, but Minun overwhelms Lunarock realy easy. They have an option of getting 1 prize by koing minun, or they can use their reversal for manectric to get 2 Prizes. That's up to stupidity of lunarock matchup.

If you get Minun really fast, Use dual ball to get 2-3 Mews, attach energy to 1st one and spark away. When it gets hit by 50-60, retreat to new one and repeat. They can't score a KO and get their prize.

Mega Shots can also be deadly, not to mension big amount of non-supporters in Lunarock.

70-30 Mewtrick favor.
 
PSYCO829 said:
minun must die
if he doesnt, lunarock loses in 4 turns

But as I say I can see Luna winning in 2-3 Turns as its managed to break the trainer lock, and KOing Minum for 1 just aint as juicy as Many for 2:tongue: but I think KOing Minum would be the play in this situation, so I agree

TheDarkTwins said:
Um, How Do You Reversal When Then Disconnect You??
Drew

Moltres423 got it, Sparking breaks the lock.

Veyatii Xeras said:
Hold it a sec. Ever attached an Energy Root and on a Lunatone that has benefitted from Solrock Body (the one that give Lunatone 80HP)? That gives it 100HP so really it could be 5 turns depending how many Energy Roots you get...

Sure, but its not realy of much help. Negative spark does 80 damage to everthing in 4 Turns, so even if you draw into 2 Roots out of your 2-3 (4 realy is excesive), they will still KO 4 of your pokemon, and from then on your only doing like 20-30 damage with Luna and its a matter of the Mewtric play killing the game off from there.
 
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Daddiursa said:
What if MewTric runs Space Center and Disconnet-lock it in place? Would LunaRock keep up the tempo with it's bodies shut off?

IMO yes, in this situation Disconect 2HKOs Luna, and Luna 2HKOs Mew, from then on its 2 Prizes for 1. The only body that realy is importyant here is the Solrock dx, and even without that disconect still has to 2HKO.

Pokekid said:
I didnt even know you moved ot canada lol.

Yup, I'm on Holiday right now. I visited the St. Albert league and a new one in Vancouver, very cool

zapper said:
It's usualy an easy win for mewtrick.

I playtest vs Lunarock a LOT and it's a piece of cake! They get into foresight lock really easy while mewtrick slowly builds 2-3 Pokemon that can easily take care of Lunarock players.

Not only that, but Minun overwhelms Lunarock realy easy. They have an option of getting 1 prize by koing minun, or they can use their reversal for manectric to get 2 Prizes. That's up to stupidity of lunarock matchup.

If you get Minun really fast, Use dual ball to get 2-3 Mews, attach energy to 1st one and spark away. When it gets hit by 50-60, retreat to new one and repeat. They can't score a KO and get their prize.

Mega Shots can also be deadly, not to mension big amount of non-supporters in Lunarock.

70-30 Mewtrick favor.

I have to disagree here, Luna consistantly hits for 60 T2, and would get a KO T3. In addition I 'phase in' different Lunas and solrocks, T1 if I know I'm playing mewtric I will only play 1 basic, so you only damage 1, I'll also play all my Tranceivers in my opening hand, and then use them as Mentors next turn. Remember theres no Admin next format so theres nothing werong with this. Also what about my build thats running the Mew, sit him behind a Solrock T1, retreat T2, and 120 for 2 prizes on the second turn - the Mew in Luna with no retreat, allows you to 1HKO exes so easily and remember I only need 3 to win.

The only realy problem is Minum, I'm pretty certain the play is to reversal, KO and continue as normal, Mewtric doesn't run Farmer or Retreiver so Mewtric can't get it back, and Luna can close the game out from there.

Without Minum, 70-30 Luna IMO, with, 50-50 depending on reversal flips/Lunas ability to pull a Mew.
 
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BigChuck01 said:
When Jason and I tested this, the Minun completely made the matchup. Very difficult without it.

I was just about to post this for Zapper, even these Champions agree with me lol!

Jason said:
Minun: Minun is intended to sway the Lunasol match-up in our favor. Luna/Sol generally beats Mewtric as it simply wins in a constant 2hit KO prize exchange, but grabbing two prizes to our one. Minun’s Sniff Out is also useful in some situations, and Negative Spark opportunities do arise.
 
Thats what I was talking about >< You loose without Minun, but Minun beats it.

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plus read what jason said. It sways lunarock matchup in OUR favor. So it's at least 60-40.
 
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zapper said:
Thats what I was talking about >< You loose without Minun, but Minun beats it.

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plus read what jason said. It sways lunarock matchup in OUR favor. So it's at least 60-40.

OK never mind, I still have found though that even with the 4 negative sparks, my Mew ex/your Weakness gives me a viable chance to take the prizes needed. Still purely out of interest what is Mewtrics play if Minums Reversed out and KOed, is it just disconecting on from there?
 
depends
if you have ness's uber teched version (hl on) then regirock ex would thrash and rip right through lunarock
normal mewtric? idk, i think that you would simply disconnect them to death once you lose minun
 
You dont have much chances, but if you made 2-3 sparks already, you can rip them trough with DIsconect. Mega Shot is ALWAYS helpfull.
 
zapper said:
You dont have much chances, but if you made 2-3 sparks already, you can rip them trough with DIsconect. Mega Shot is ALWAYS helpfull.

I thought so, What would you Megashot though? just the active Luna for the KO, of does this vary if I have a benched Luna for backup?

Anyways I think I've got all the help I needed thanks for the help:thumb:
 
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